Next GM Short-List: Who's your pick and why?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I am not a huge fan of the guy, but Bill Polian has been successful everywhere he has been.

The Bills went to 4 superbowls
The Panthers went to the NFCC game in his second year there as an expansion team.
The Colts went to a ****ton of championship games and superbowls.

Its hard to argue that the guy wouldn't be a damn good hire and possibly the best option out there.

Match him up with a HC like Bill Cohwer and this team could turn things around quickly.

Negatives:

Fired after the 1993 Bills season

Left Carolina in piss poor shape because he went the veteran route and had poor drafts.

Poor drafts in Indy left the Colts completely helpless once Manning went down.

Hired a poor coach in Jim Caldwell. He was also helpless once Manning went down.

69 years old and will likely bring his dumbass son along.

Known for Pioli-like secrecy/dumbassery.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Negatives:

Fired after the 1993 Bills season

Left Carolina in piss poor shape because he went the veteran route and had poor drafts.

Poor drafts in Indy left the Colts completely helpless once Manning went down.

Hired a poor coach in Jim Caldwell. He was also helpless once Manning went down.

69 years old and will likely bring his dumbass son along.

Known for Pioli-like secrecy/dumbassery.

yea, no. polian cant draft worth shit.

hire a young gun head coach & then hire a gm. I think hc is more important to this team at this point then gm in my opinion.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

i think hc is more important to this team at this point then gm in my opinion.

I could not disagree more.

Talent trumps scheme every single time.

Look no further than the 90's Chiefs as proof.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I could not disagree more.

Talent trumps scheme every single time.

Look no further than the 90's Chiefs as proof.

I disagree to an extent.

Look at the 2012 Chiefs.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I could not disagree more.

Talent trumps scheme every single time.

Look no further than the 90's Chiefs as proof.

I say that bc our team is really already in place for most the part. we need a hc who can fire this team up and get the players to play their hearts out. a guy the team listens to and who knows how to scheme and put gameplans together. we just need a gm who is good with contracts and sees our team from an outside perspective and what would help and whats hurting. were past the stage where we need a draft guru to draft key anchors. just how I feel anyway

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Negatives:

Fired after the 1993 Bills season

Left Carolina in piss poor shape because he went the veteran route and had poor drafts.

Poor drafts in Indy left the Colts completely helpless once Manning went down.

Hired a poor coach in Jim Caldwell. He was also helpless once Manning went down.

69 years old and will likely bring his dumbass son along.

Known for Pioli-like secrecy/dumbassery.

Fired after he built a team that went to its 4th straight superbowl. Id JIMP.

Of course he "went the veteran route" he was starting an expansion team. How the team did after he left was on somebody else, he had them in the NFCC game in his second year there.

While I agree that his drafts werent very good in Indy, he did fill some crucial spots while there that helped the team win big games and he made it a point to put as many weapons as he could around PM to help him succeed.

Most teams are "helpless" when their HOF starter goes down.

Age is a concern, as is bringing Chris with him....I agree. Maybe Chris has learned something as a scout, though. Its not like Atlanta hasnt drafted well.

Interesting, I honestly didn't know about his secrecy stuff...can you elaborate?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Fired after he built a team that went to its 4th straight superbowl. Id JIMP.

Of course he "went the veteran route" he was starting an expansion team. How the team did after he left was on somebody else, he had them in the NFCC game in his second year

Actually, it was after their third Super Bowl appearance.

Jacksonville went for youth, yet was in the AFC Championship Game quickly and repeatedly won playoff games. Carolina was a disaster and didn't get better until after John Fox and Marty Hurny took over eight years later. Carolina endured a 1-15 season post Polian as well.

I'm on the iPad so I can't link so you'll need to search for Polian's militant tactics.

Also, I wouldn't lay any bets that Chris has learned enough to become a successful GM in a short time period.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Interesting, I honestly didn't know about his secrecy stuff...can you elaborate?

http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012...-no-more-fear/

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2012/1/4...of-terror-ends

I had a friend who landed a job with the Colts many years ago. The first time we ran into each other in a complex hallway, I congratulated him. All I received was a nod as he kept walking. I didn’t know what to think. After the work day, my friend phoned to apologize.

“You understand why I can’t stop and talk to you in the building,” he said.

I didn’t.

He was afraid Polian would see us exchanging pleasantries.

“He hates all of us, too,” the friend said.

I was reminded recently about how a former Colts player was in a hallway, talking to a then-current player, when Polian walked up. The boss didn’t care for the former player, and refused to acknowledge the man’s presence. A short time later, a nearby phone rang. The current player explained the former player had to leave.

Like Phil, I had a similar experience with friends who landed jobs with the Colts. Some of these people were family friends, people I deeply care for. Once the word reached Polian that they were close to me, all communication with those people stopped.

At Super Bowl XLIV in Miami, I walked up to one such friend and to say hello. Bill Polian was just a few feet away. The friend nodded and shuffled away. I didn't know what was wrong until a month later, when people told me that if anyone within the team was seen speaking with me, they could lose their jobs.

Like Phil, I couldn't get out of my head the unbelievable culture of fear that the insecure, violently paranoid Polians used to keep control of the organization. And I won't lie. I'm glad Polian and his equally odious son were fired.

Not reassigned.

Not 'allowed to resign.'

Fired.

It was a fitting end to two people who simply lacked the ability to treat others decently and respectfully, especially if those others worked under them.