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Old 12-21-2016, 01:07 AM   #1
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I can't imagine prioritizing McCaffery when your starting QB's ability is starting to erode and you really don't have a good option behind him (Foles will be gone).

I actually like what I see from Mitchell and want to see more of his ability before deciding to go Corner. If it looks like he just might stick, I'd take a pass on a corner. That slot should be where the Chiefs choose a RB.

Far too many really good RB's in this draft class to feel pressured to take one on Thursday, unless you're gonna land Fournette.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:53 AM   #2
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I like the target positions. I caution against Alex Anzalone, however, because I just don't know that his body can hold up for the NFL. The guy is always injured.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:58 PM   #3
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I like the target positions. I caution against Alex Anzalone, however, because I just don't know that his body can hold up for the NFL. The guy is always injured.
I like him and his game a lot, but you are correct. He's out again with a broken arm suffered against Arkansas.

You would think that the run of horrible luck that he's had from an injury perspective would have to stop and he really is a very nice linebacker prospect, but a team would have to do their due diligence.

I think he's a stud when he's on the field though. But he's got to be on the field.

Going to have to do a major editing on this. Victor suffered a broken leg against USC, Anzalone a broken arm, Kizer isn't going to last to the Chiefs pick, etc.
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Old 12-16-2016, 02:19 PM   #4
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Okay.

Apparently everyone has lost their ****ing mind so I have to redo this thing.

Redo will emcompass several things:

1. No matter how much I want Vanderbilt's outstanding ILB, he is not going to last to the Chiefs pick. A guy who is capable of defending the run and pass with that length and instincts is not going to be around in the late 20's. Teams running either 34 or 43 defenses are going to be salivating over Cunningham. Dude is a machine. It's not going to come down to the Combine because a 40 time on him is going to be irrelevant. (And he should have a decent 40 time anyway - probably better than the other guys at his position. And he's perfect for this team. He's the guy that Dorsey has been trying to find, but is just that much better. Comes off of blocks extremely well, and slips gaps easily. Excellent in coverage. Shows very good functional strength in taking on guards. Dude is the total package. IMO the two guys that are close to what Cunningham offers is Washington's Azeem Victor and Florida's Alex Anzalone. However, both are coming off of broken bones suffered in the 2016 season. Victor's being a leg, Anazlone's an arem. They will have to check out medically. Victor has impressed me quite a bit over the past several seasons.

Most of the other available ILB's in this draft are bigger, thicker run pluggers that don't really fit into Sutton's defense or what Dorsey has been punching into the Decision Lens for his matrix numbers.



2. Kizer will not be there either. He's most likely the #2 pick in the draft, maybe even #1. At the very least he's top ten.
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Old 12-16-2016, 03:58 PM   #5
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Old 12-16-2016, 05:41 PM   #7
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New mock assumes a "Chiefs continue to build around Smith"-nonsense vibe from seasons past.

What started as a good, yet questionable original mock, has now become the Star Wars prequels of mocks.

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Old 12-16-2016, 05:56 PM   #8
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New mock assumes a "Chiefs continue to build around Smith"-nonsense vibe from seasons past.

What started as a good, yet questionable original mock, has now become the Star Wars prequels of mocks.

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Lol!

What you are failing to see is that the QB position in this particular draft is not top heavy nor is it deep. Kelly at Mississippi would have been a viable mid round selection, but he blew his knee and is not viable as a draft pick unless you are using a very late rounder and hope there's a cance of recovery.

Otherwise, I'm not sure who you are really pining for with the Chiefs pick.

They aren't moving up for Deshone Kizer because Dorsey isn't going to pay that exhorbitent price that it would take to do so with Smith most likely going to be the starter through the 2019 or 2020 season and having signed Nick Foles this off season and having Bray.

They aren't going to burn a high draft pick on this crop of QB's.

You are going to have to keep your eyes on the 2018 Draft for that position. Maybe even the 2019 class where guys like BYU's Tanner Mangum, Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald, or Stanford's Keller Chryst or USC's Sam Darnold.

However, I wouldn't pin your hopes on the 2017 class of producing a guy who is going to be the Chiefs QBOTF.

Kizer is as close as it gets in terms of fitting the system, but he's going to be long gone and it will cost far too much to go up that far to get him.

So, as that stands, you might as well put in the tools in the system that will allow that guy, when they decide to get that guy, have the tools ready to go to be successful.

They need a real receiver. They need a dynamic force at RB/HB now that it looks like Charles' future is possibly in doubt. They need a couple more offensive linemen. And they most definitely need an additional pass rusher, cornerback and ILB.

I know that it isn't what you want, but the QBOTF isn't happening in the 2017 Draft unless they get extremely lucky ala Tom Brady later in the draft (And there isn't even a late round Brady type of guy in this draft to be honest).

Sorry.

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Old 12-16-2016, 09:53 PM   #9
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Lol!

What you are failing to see is that the QB position in this particular draft is not top heavy nor is it deep. Kelly at Mississippi would have been a viable mid round selection, but he blew his knee and is not viable as a draft pick unless you are using a very late rounder and hope there's a cance of recovery.

Otherwise, I'm not sure who you are really pining for with the Chiefs pick.

They aren't moving up for Deshone Kizer because Dorsey isn't going to pay that exhorbitent price that it would take to do so with Smith most likely going to be the starter through the 2019 or 2020 season and having signed Nick Foles this off season and having Bray.

They aren't going to burn a high draft pick on this crop of QB's.


You are going to have to keep your eyes on the 2018 Draft for that position. Maybe even the 2019 class where guys like BYU's Tanner Mangum, Mississippi State's Nick Fitzgerald, or Stanford's Keller Chryst.

However, I wouldn't pin your hopes on the 2017 class of producing a guy who is going to be the Chiefs QBOTF.

Kizer is as close as it gets in terms of fitting the system, but he's going to be long gone and it will cost far too much to go up that far to get him.

So, as that stands, you might as well put in the tools in the system that will allow that guy, when they decide to get that guy, have the tools ready to go to be successful.

They need a real receiver. They need a dynamic force at RB/HB now that it looks like Charles' future is possibly in doubt. They need a couple more offensive linemen. And they most definitely need an additional pass rusher, cornerback and ILB.

I know that it isn't what you want, but the QBOTF isn't happening in the 2017 Draft unless they get extremely lucky ala Tom Brady later in the draft (And there isn't even a late round Brady type of guy in this draft to be honest).

Sorry.
You are correct. Also, there will be no QBOTF. Like, ever.

The Chiefs prefer the "Very Free Agent" of the future, or "VAGENT"

As to what they will actually do, I don't believe that Dorsey is going to draft for need or replacement like he did in the case of Albert. That was just a shitty year to have to draft at all.
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Old 12-16-2016, 11:22 PM   #10
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Two time all ACC first team ILB Micah Kiser has entered 2017 draft. Showed excellent athleticism with 2 sacks on Heisman winner Lamar Jackson. Is a prototypical 3-4 inside linebacker according to draft analyst Chad Reuter. Currently #88 on CBS board but I think he'll move up before draft day.
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Old 12-17-2016, 10:05 AM   #11
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Two time all ACC first team ILB Micah Kiser has entered 2017 draft. Showed excellent athleticism with 2 sacks on Heisman winner Lamar Jackson. Is a prototypical 3-4 inside linebacker according to draft analyst Chad Reuter. Currently #88 on CBS board but I think he'll move up before draft day.
Both Kiser and LSU's Kendell Beckwith are viable picks for the Chiefs at the ILB spot with one of their third round picks. They have to come out of the draft with somebody at the position.






I suspect that Dorsey will also extensively comb through the prospective free agent pool as well.

Jon Bostic, Audie Cole, AJ Klein, etc. There's a lot of prospective ILB's in free agency for next season.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/
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Old 12-17-2016, 12:42 PM   #12
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Both Kiser and LSU's Kendell Beckwith are viable picks for the Chiefs at the ILB spot with one of their third round picks. They have to come out of the draft with somebody at the position.






I suspect that Dorsey will also extensively comb through the prospective free agent pool as well.

Jon Bostic, Audie Cole, AJ Klein, etc. There's a lot of prospective ILB's in free agency for next season.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

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Old 12-17-2016, 10:07 AM   #13
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He uses the Decision Lens metric system for free agents as he does foe prospective draft picks.

They will find someone along with the hopeful development of Wilson.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:12 PM   #14
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He uses the Decision Lens metric system for free agents as he does foe prospective draft picks.

They will find someone along with the hopeful development of Wilson.
Good article about the salesman from decision lens about dorsey and pioli .

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