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Old 09-12-2019, 05:51 PM  
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Should the Chiefs look at S Minkah Fitzpatrick as a CB?
So I've come around to the idea that we might need to address the CB situation sooner rather than later.

In that vein, I was wondering what we think of S Minkah Fitzpatrick of the Miami Dolphins.

6' 1" 200 lbs.

2018 stats
80 tackles
9 pass defended
2 INTs

I know, he's listed as a safety. But last year, out of 1,000 snaps played, he actually played over the slot and on the boundary in nearly 700 snaps. And when he was targeted, he allowed just a 51% completion rate, and a QB rating of only 49%. Okay, 49.7%.

And while he's still got 3 years to go on his contract, he looks cheap, at about 3-4 million/year.

Maybe a solid possibility?
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Old 09-13-2019, 07:58 AM   #76
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I'd probably do it for the 2, we have basically nothing under contract next year back there and if we got a guy at the back of the 2nd that could do what Fitzpatrick does at his level we'd all be going nuts about how we stole him.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:03 AM   #77
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this would be such a great trade for us regardless what pick we give up. Him and Thornhill both are interchangeable you could do so many different looks with the safeties we have and bringing this guy in
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:04 AM   #78
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Fitzpatrick makes the most sense from the perspective of wanting to pay Mahomes and Jones soon. That’s harder if you go with PP.

Idk I think it’s a Veach move all day long.

I think so too. Our all-world QB is 24 years old. We're going to be in this SB hunt every season for the next decade plus if we play our cards right.

**** winning one ****ing SB, I want SEVEN. However many ends up being one more than the Bradys.

The way you do that is not high priced free agents. It's cheap, controllable talent.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:05 AM   #79
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They can’t just keep trading away 1st round picks. You guys need to stop getting your hopes up.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:05 AM   #80
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this would be such a great trade for us regardless what pick we give up. Him and Thornhill both are interchangeable you could do so many different looks with the safeties we have and bringing this guy in
I agree, and creating confusion with multiple looks is a big part of this scheme I think. We're not seeing it yet, but by all accounts that's the plan.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:06 AM   #81
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They can’t just keep trading away 1st round picks. You guys need to stop getting your hopes up.
You’d have to be confident you could get a high pick back for Jones if you tagged and traded him
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:08 AM   #82
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They can’t just keep trading away 1st round picks. You guys need to stop getting your hopes up.
But they can. And if it's for cheap young talent, they should.

If we pick #32, is that REALLY even a first round player? Maybe, maybe not. It's at best a 50/50 bet.

A player like Fitzpatrick has shown he's a good player at the NFL level, is young, and under control for multiple seasons on a rookie deal.

He's more like a 80/20 bet.

It's much better odds that he helps you win.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:10 AM   #83
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I don’t think it has to be a 1st though.

Albright said they’ll likely settle for a 2nd and the 49ers pick should be a decent one.
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But they can. And if it's for cheap young talent, they should.

If we pick #32, is that REALLY even a first round player? Maybe, maybe not. It's at best a 50/50 bet.

A player like Fitzpatrick has shown he's a good player at the NFL level, is young, and under control for multiple seasons on a rookie deal.

He's more like a 80/20 bet.

It's much better odds that he helps you win.
Of course. In a perfect world, one in which they hadn’t just gave away a first for Frank Clark.
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Look, I get not wanting to trade all your high picks away. If it backfires, you end up with a team devoid of quality talent.

However, if you're picking last in the round, you will have a hard time re-stocking anyway.

IF you're trading picks for good young talent that's already proven at the NFL level, it's actually a better bet.
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I don’t think it has to be a 1st though.

Albright said they’ll likely settle for a 2nd and the 49ers pick should be a decent one.
If they can do that, I’d do it in a heartbeat. I don’t see it happening.
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I would absolutely give a 2nd right now.

I might even throw in a 5th round pick since he's already proven more than a raw draft pick.
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Look, I get not wanting to trade all your high picks away. If it backfires, you end up with a team devoid of quality talent.

However, if you're picking last in the round, you will have a hard time re-stocking anyway.

IF you're trading picks for good young talent that's already proven at the NFL level, it's actually a better bet.
It’s not about me wanting to, it’s more about whether or not they will. I just don’t see it.
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They can’t just keep trading away 1st round picks. You guys need to stop getting your hopes up.
Why not?

Fitzpatrick essentially is a 1st at this point, year 2 of his contract as a top 10 pick.
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would you trade dee ford the oft injured one trick pony for minkah fitz who played at an apparent high level in multiple positions as a rookie?

well **** i sure would.
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