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Old 09-12-2019, 05:51 PM  
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Should the Chiefs look at S Minkah Fitzpatrick as a CB?
So I've come around to the idea that we might need to address the CB situation sooner rather than later.

In that vein, I was wondering what we think of S Minkah Fitzpatrick of the Miami Dolphins.

6' 1" 200 lbs.

2018 stats
80 tackles
9 pass defended
2 INTs

I know, he's listed as a safety. But last year, out of 1,000 snaps played, he actually played over the slot and on the boundary in nearly 700 snaps. And when he was targeted, he allowed just a 51% completion rate, and a QB rating of only 49%. Okay, 49.7%.

And while he's still got 3 years to go on his contract, he looks cheap, at about 3-4 million/year.

Maybe a solid possibility?
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:09 AM   #166
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Fitzpatrick is at practice today for Miami, proving just how stupid Miami is once again.
If he gets hurt in practice there goes any value you had in him. Why not hold him out until you see what you can get for him?
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:11 AM   #167
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If Minkah can hold down the slot and we give up our 1 for him, what would you think of using fuller to try to get Pat Peterson? Maybe fuller and a mid round pick like a 3 and get a 5th back from AZ.
uh id say this is probably a fuller or pat pete situation if its either of them. it would be rough to get three guys up to speed including scandrick part 2 in a few weeks.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:14 AM   #168
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Per PFF Fitzpatrick was the 7th best CB in passer rating allowed.

7. MINKAH FITZPATRICK, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 69.0
Fitzpatrick is the second rookie to make this list, but he’s the first player to make it who didn’t primarily play outside corner in 2018. The Dolphins had Minkah line up all over the field this past season; he spent 379 snaps as a slot corner, 281 snaps out wide and another 261 snaps as either a free or box safety. In coverage, Minkah was especially effective out of the slot, where he ranked first among cornerbacks by allowing just a 53.4 passer rating.

Of course Xavien Howard was ranked 3rd.

3. XAVIEN HOWARD, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 62.6
Howard took a nice step forward during his third NFL campaign, finishing the season with a 75.3 coverage grade which bested his previous best grade by nearly 12 points (63.6 in 2017). Howard allowed 29 catches on 57 targets for 469 yards and four touchdowns to go with his league-leading seven interceptions (and he missed four games at the end of the season). The former second-round pick held opposing signal-callers to a sub-100 passer rating when targeting him in coverage in 8 of 12 games last season


I’d take both of them.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:15 AM   #169
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If Minkah can hold down the slot and we give up our 1 for him, what would you think of using fuller to try to get Pat Peterson? Maybe fuller and a mid round pick like a 3 and get a 5th back from AZ.
Nah.

Fuller is making $2M this year. No way I'm playing PP, who doesn't know the scheme, 5x as much and trading draft capital.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:16 AM   #170
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Fitzpatrick is at practice today for Miami, proving just how stupid Miami is once again.
If he gets hurt in practice there goes any value you had in him. Why not hold him out until you see what you can get for him?
Because the Dolphins are trying to win. /s
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Because the Dolphins are trying to win. /s
Not sure if you are serious but if they were trying to win they wouldnt allow him to seek a trade.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:26 AM   #172
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Nah.

Fuller is making $2M this year. No way I'm playing PP, who doesn't know the scheme, 5x as much and trading draft capital.
We'd be paying fitzpatrick less than 2M this year to cover the slot though, and we'd have him for 3 extra years on a cheap contract when you take into account the 5th yr option. And we'd actually be getting something in return for fuller rather than letting him walk in the offseason. It isn't like fuller has been in this defense for 3 years either. He probably is still scratching the surface as well. It would be a lot to get minkah and pat peterson up to speed, but we have a great offense to lean on, then we'd get hill back in about 5 weeks and you have claiborne coming back in another 3 weeks. We don't need the defense to be great by week 5. We need them to be ready to beat the pats in foxborough week 14 and this would give us a lot more talent to do that.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:31 AM   #173
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At any rate, a second year player that has no clout has no room to be requesting shit. Suck it up and do what your coaches ask.
Has nothing to do with his ability to help the Chiefs.
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Per PFF Fitzpatrick was the 7th best CB in passer rating allowed.

7. MINKAH FITZPATRICK, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 69.0
Fitzpatrick is the second rookie to make this list, but he’s the first player to make it who didn’t primarily play outside corner in 2018. The Dolphins had Minkah line up all over the field this past season; he spent 379 snaps as a slot corner, 281 snaps out wide and another 261 snaps as either a free or box safety. In coverage, Minkah was especially effective out of the slot, where he ranked first among cornerbacks by allowing just a 53.4 passer rating.

Of course Xavien Howard was ranked 3rd.

3. XAVIEN HOWARD, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 62.6
Howard took a nice step forward during his third NFL campaign, finishing the season with a 75.3 coverage grade which bested his previous best grade by nearly 12 points (63.6 in 2017). Howard allowed 29 catches on 57 targets for 469 yards and four touchdowns to go with his league-leading seven interceptions (and he missed four games at the end of the season). The former second-round pick held opposing signal-callers to a sub-100 passer rating when targeting him in coverage in 8 of 12 games last season
Yes. Only thing he can't do effectively is cover TEs. Chiefs aren't going to ask him to do that. He won't be playing LB either.
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Like the Salary/Cap Hit #'s. Allows Chiefs to be more flexible and go in different directions of other needs as well.
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haha my friend is a diehard fins fan and he texted me last night “chiefs should trade for Minkah”

I completely agree. 22 year old DB with upside who can play all over the secondary? get this shit done
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Has nothing to do with his ability to help the Chiefs.
No kidding and when the whole team isn't buying in you can't put that all on one player. The problem is clearly with their front office/coaching staff, not just the players.
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Like the Salary/Cap Hit #'s. Allows Chiefs to be more flexible and go in different directions of other needs as well.
And that’s true for 30 other teams. They’re not going to get him on the cheap.
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