Chiefs Late night bullshit: Chiefs roster would-you-rather. - Page 3

Chiefshrink · 08-28-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Not sure who I feel more sorry for.

The dipshits that come to you for counseling, or the dipshits who use you as a weight trainer.

Hey, do you work out with weights ?

milkman · 08-28-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Hey, do you work out with weights ?

Not anymore.

But that isn't the point.

The physical demands of playing the game, especially in the trenches, simply take too much of a physical toll for weight training to be effective.

That's why every single player that needs to put on muscle mass when they come into the league is expected to do so after their rookie season.

**jjchieffan** · 08-28-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

You still don't get it. You take any person who has barely touched weights and that is the "key" 'barely touched weights' and put that person on a disciplined program and they will in the very least increase there strength by 35-40% within the first 3-5months. You assume Parker is already a "maxed out weight monster" in the weight room. He is NOT based on not only his play in pre-seaso(Rams D-line) but even more telling what he did and did not do at the combine which was even more telling.

I assure you any average person who has 'never seriously lifted weights' will make their biggest gains within the first 3-5 months because their ceiling is very high at that point. If you can only do 1 rep of bench press at 225lbs, within 3-5 months with committed discipline whether you are playing football or not I will have you doing at the very least 315 for 1 rep. I'm a weight lifting enthusiast and have taught it formerly and still teach it on the side.

With that being said and to your point of 'losing strength or leveling off' during the season because of the rigor of the season this is only true of players who have maxed out or hit their ceiling in the weight room. Parker has NOT.

Parker knew he was weak in the bench press and why he didn't perform it at the combine "thinking" he was protecting his draft stock but every team 'knew' what was going on

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I hope you're right. I don't know enough about bulking up to argue either way, but if he can bulk up quickly, that's going to be great.

Chiefshrink · 08-28-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I hope you're right. I don't know enough about bulking up to argue either way, but if he can bulk up quickly, that's going to be great.

If he is truly committed to himself and his team and trusts the strength training coach, NO PROBLEM, easily done. Let's say he can only do 225 maybe 5-10x(and may be worse, who knows?) which is usually the case when lineman decline the bench press at the combine. That means he is probably good for 1 rep anywhere between 300-320. Those guys at the combine doing 25 reps or more at 225 are performing at 1 rep anywhere from 450 to 550 lbs if not more for 1 rep. If Parker is committed, by December, starting in May he will be doing at least 400 to 425 for one rep regardless of the rigor of the season because his ceiling will be the highest to grow IMO and will at least keep him from being tossed around as much.

**jjchieffan** · 08-28-2016, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

If he is truly committed to himself and his team and trusts the strength training coach, NO PROBLEM, easily done. Let's say he can only do 225 maybe 5-10x(and may be worse, who knows?) which is usually the case when lineman decline the bench press at the combine. That means he is probably good for 1 rep anywhere between 300-320. Those guys at the combine doing 25 reps or more at 225 are performing at 1 rep anywhere from 450 to 550 lbs if not more for 1 rep. If Parker is committed, by December, starting in May he will be doing at least 400 to 425 for one rep regardless of the rigor of the season because his ceiling will be the highest to grow IMO and will at least keep him from being tossed around as much.

First of all, as I already stated, I don't know much about weight training, so I'm not trying to argue with you. But one thing that I would like to hear your input on is that much strength training during a rookie season and it's effect on him as the season wears on. Year after year, we see rookies start off looking great and then tail off as they hit the "rookie wall" because they are not accustomed to a 16 game schedule. Wouldn't adding all of that strength training to him on top of everything else make him hit that wall that much sooner and any strength gained be negated due to fatigue?

Hoover · 08-28-2016, 12:33 PM