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Old 10-15-2018, 02:56 PM  
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So Bill Self knew . . . . ?
So Coach Self knew about Adidas paying players to come to Kansas??

Article on ESPN.com front page:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...sa-recruitment

Another new article from ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...oach-bill-self
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:59 PM   #76
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So stating obvious facts is being a hater? Whether they can actually prove beyond a reasonable doubt is not clear, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a complete homer that a lot of shady and likely illegal (against NCAA rules) activities have been going on at a number of NCAA schools, including Kansas. You don't have to be a hater to know that Kansas has a long history of breaking the rules and getting away with it.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:16 PM   #77
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Says the Mizzou fan who still believes Ricky Clemmons was "framed".
I don't really follow basketball and I don't even remember what he got in trouble for, but I'm certain I never proclaimed his innocence.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:56 PM   #78
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Old 10-16-2018, 07:11 AM   #79
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Why does college basketball have to be this way? School pride? The spirit of competition? Profit? We already have a pro league and a dev league.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:00 AM   #80
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I love the KU haters reading more into this then necessary
it is kind of like hearing KU homers saying "so, what is the big deal?"
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:21 AM   #81
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Why does college basketball have to be this way? School pride? The spirit of competition? Profit? We already have a pro league and a dev league.
Why do laborers who generate massive profits for their "employers" think they deserve a tiny fraction of what they produce?


Gosh. It's a real mystery.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:29 AM   #82
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Why do laborers who generate massive profits for their "employers" think they deserve a tiny fraction of what they produce?


Gosh. It's a real mystery.
Apples and Oranges...what is a KU tution, housing and meals program worth?
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it is kind of like hearing KU homers saying "so, what is the big deal?"
no, no its not the same thing
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He definitely knew, idk how anyone can deny that. But I doubt there will be enough evidence to have anything come from it
Not enough evidence for a court conviction, but might be enough for the NCAA. Of course the NCAA has been losing power for a while now and their punishments have been held way back. I think they are afraid of upsetting the blue bloods in basketball and football.
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Apples and Oranges...what is a KU tution, housing and meals program worth?
It's essentially worthless.

For the best players - the ones we are talking about here - it's far far less than their actual free market value.

For the poopy ones, the scrubs who sit at the end of KU's bench, it's still worthless (from the University perspective) since they're giving out free education instead of dollars. It costs them nothing to add a few students to the classrooms. The cost of food is about all they're out.
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So this is damning?



Nowhere in the article does it say that Self or KU knew they were paying the kids. None of the texts show that either. Tell me how those texts are "damning".
Their envy makes it so. Facts be damned.
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Why does college basketball have to be this way? School pride? The spirit of competition? Profit? We already have a pro league and a dev league.
Money.

And it isn’t just basketball. Football and baseball are the same way. It’s just basketball is far more convoluted with AAU, which is a joke.
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Apples and Oranges...what is a KU tution, housing and meals program worth?
Depends on what degree you end up with.
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it is kind of like hearing KU homers saying "so, what is the big deal?"
To their credit, I don't think any KU fans are saying "Our program's not dirty." They seem to be saying that they are just dirty because they need to be dirty in order to compete with other top programs.
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