Chiefs Why can't Tyreek be our #1 WR? - Page 6

wutamess · 03:04 PM

The more I'm sitting here thinking about how explosive and quick this guy is, I start questioning why can't he be our #1 WR?

Antonio Brown is probably smaller than he is.
NONE of the Chiefs WRs have better hands than he does.
NONE of the Chiefs WRs get more seperation.

I heard that there was some report that claimed TH has the most seperation of any WR in the league. It was statistical analysis by one of those Pro football statistician sites.

Why can't he be our #1? Anyone have a solid answer?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-in-separation

Mr. Laz · 02-02-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

I love that you have finally seen the light.

Also, Tiger and Laz are being hateful and disruptive, insensitive to Stumpy, and could probably use some Romper Room time.

Darth Carl Satan bypassing permaban

Mods?

stumppy · 02-02-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

We don't need Maclin, Alex Smith won't throw it anyway.

and a million times since then by people in every ****ing thread

snarky bullshit serves NO ****ING PURPOSE whatsoever, you annoying PoS.

The thread is about Hill vs other receivers, not about the production level of the receiving corp as a whole.

Suck my dick pussy. I've never had a cross word with you on anything posted on the board. I post a legitimate reason why he's not the #1 rec. And all you can say to me is shut the **** up along with calling me a pos. for posting my opinion. If you don't like what I post put me on ignore. And go **** yourself.

kccrow · 02-02-2017, 10:14 PM

I'd have to say yes, Tyreek has legitimate potential to be a top-flight receiving threat because his speed and quickness are an impossible cover.

Stumppy does have a legitimate point though Laz, whether you want to admit it or not. This isn't even turning it into an Alex only thread. Tyreek made fewer big plays in the passing game than he should have and his yards per reception show it. A big part of that is having a guy behind center willing to put the ball out there like Ben does for Antonio Brown, and that may be a limiting factor in Hill's ability to reach that level of production and yardage. When you have a receiving like Hill, who's best attribute may be getting open deep, the QBs tendencies go a long way in determining whether or not that receiver will end up being your #1 weapon. So long as Alex is the QB, I do believe Kelce remains target #1. I do, however, believe that Hill has developed into a guy Reid wants to get the ball to as much as possible and he schemed specifically to do so within Smith's comfort zone.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-02-2017, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Same goes for you.

Just saying

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

You should figure out the same issues

Called this a week ago. Overzealous mod protecting his buddies rather than calling out the stupid **** for his troll comment.

stumppy · 02-02-2017, 10:16 PM

Can you imagine what Hill could do on any number of other teams ?

Mr. Laz · 02-02-2017, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy

Suck my dick pussy. I've never had a cross word with you on anything posted on the board. I post a legitimate reason why he's not the #1 rec. And all you can say to me is shut the **** up along with calling me a pos. for posting my opinion. If you don't like what I post put me on ignore. And go **** yourself.

Do you comprehend that there HAS to be a #1 receiver no matter what?

It's just about WHO that receiver is

Can your ballsack-sized brain understand that point?

You're trying to switch the topic from who is our best receiver to "IwannabitchaboutAlexsmithsomemore"

WR depth chart ..... who is our #1?

stupid **** can't use their brains to save their ass

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-02-2017, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Do you comprehend that there HAS to be a #1 receiver no matter what?

It's just about WHO that receiver is

Can your ballsack-sized brain understand that point?

You're trying to switch the topic from who is our best receiver to "IwannabitchaboutAlexsmithsomemore"

WR depth chart ..... who is our #1?

stupid **** can't use their brains to save their ass

It's hard to refute anything you just said.

stumppy · 02-02-2017, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Do you comprehend that there HAS to be a #1 receiver no matter what?

It's just about WHO that receiver is

Can your ballsack-sized brain understand that point?

You're trying to switch the topic from who is our best receiver to "IwannabitchaboutAlexsmithsomemore"

WR depth chart ..... who is our #1?

stupid **** can't use their brains to save their ass

It's called reading comprehension you stupid ****. The OP asked 'why can't he be our #1 rec." It's pretty simple, HE CAN'T BE OUR #1 REC because our QB isn't good enough to utilize his skills.

Mr. Laz · 02-02-2017, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy

It's called reading comprehension you stupid ****. The OP asked 'why can't he be our #1 rec." It's pretty simple, HE CAN'T BE OUR #1 REC because our QB isn't good enough to utilize his skills.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-02-2017, 10:41 PM

The fact you want to throw out an unpleasant comment without providing any context , it provides no value to this thread. Basically done with the intent of being a god damn troll. If you had a factual argument like "Smith throws a measly 40% down the sideline beyond 20+ yards " then we are getting somewhere.

kccrow · 02-02-2017, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

The fact you want to throw out an unpleasant comment without providing any context , it provides no value to this thread. Basically done with the intent of being a god damn troll. If you had a factual argument like "Smith throws a measly 40% down the sideline beyond 20+ yards " then we are getting somewhere.

Maybe this will help?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/split...416/alex-smith

Edit: Add Tyreek's Adv Zone stats

stumppy · 02-02-2017, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Maybe this will help?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/split...416/alex-smith

Crow, if you start trolling people with facts I'm going to have to report you.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-02-2017, 11:03 PM

Except Crow knows where to find the facts that I was speaking of and he can provide them to the discussion, unlike your stupid uneducated ass that's trying to dodge the accusation of being a troll and how you are derailing the thread

kccrow · 02-02-2017, 11:11 PM

Here's a comparison with Big Ben to Antonio Brown

Hammock Parties · 02-02-2017, 11:13 PM

If you really want to break down the WR production the last two years...

2016 Hill: 83 targets, 599 yards (7.21 yards per target)
2016 Maclin: 76 targets, 536 yards (7.05 yards per target)
2016 Conley: 69 targets, 546 yards (7.9 yards per target)

Top 3 WR TOTALS: 228 targets, 1,681 yards (7.37 yards per target)

2015 Maclin: 124 targets, 1088 yards (8.7 yards per target)
2015 Wilson: 57 targets, 451 yards (7.9 yards per target)
2015 Conley: 31 targets, 199 yards (6.4 yards per target)

Top 3 WR TOTALS: 212 targets, 1,738 yards (8.19 yards per target)

Not sure what this means, if anything. Draw your own conclusions.

02-02-2017, 02:52 PM
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $5381637	Why can't Tyreek be our #1 WR? The more I'm sitting here thinking about how explosive and quick this guy is, I start questioning why can't he be our #1 WR? Antonio Brown is probably smaller than he is. NONE of the Chiefs WRs have better hands than he does. NONE of the Chiefs WRs get more seperation. I heard that there was some report that claimed TH has the most seperation of any WR in the league. It was statistical analysis by one of those Pro football statistician sites. Why can't he be our #1? Anyone have a solid answer? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-in-separation Last edited by wutamess; 02-02-2017 at 03:04 PM..
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02-02-2017, 10:14 PM	#78
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3247078	I'd have to say yes, Tyreek has legitimate potential to be a top-flight receiving threat because his speed and quickness are an impossible cover. Stumppy does have a legitimate point though Laz, whether you want to admit it or not. This isn't even turning it into an Alex only thread. Tyreek made fewer big plays in the passing game than he should have and his yards per reception show it. A big part of that is having a guy behind center willing to put the ball out there like Ben does for Antonio Brown, and that may be a limiting factor in Hill's ability to reach that level of production and yardage. When you have a receiving like Hill, who's best attribute may be getting open deep, the QBs tendencies go a long way in determining whether or not that receiver will end up being your #1 weapon. So long as Alex is the QB, I do believe Kelce remains target #1. I do, however, believe that Hill has developed into a guy Reid wants to get the ball to as much as possible and he schemed specifically to do so within Smith's comfort zone.
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02-02-2017, 10:41 PM	#85
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	The fact you want to throw out an unpleasant comment without providing any context , it provides no value to this thread. Basically done with the intent of being a god damn troll. If you had a factual argument like "Smith throws a measly 40% down the sideline beyond 20+ yards " then we are getting somewhere.
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02-02-2017, 11:03 PM	#88
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Except Crow knows where to find the facts that I was speaking of and he can provide them to the discussion, unlike your stupid uneducated ass that's trying to dodge the accusation of being a troll and how you are derailing the thread
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02-02-2017, 11:11 PM	#89
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3247078	Here's a comparison with Big Ben to Antonio Brown
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02-02-2017, 11:13 PM	#90
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4720478	If you really want to break down the WR production the last two years... 2016 Hill: 83 targets, 599 yards (7.21 yards per target) 2016 Maclin: 76 targets, 536 yards (7.05 yards per target) 2016 Conley: 69 targets, 546 yards (7.9 yards per target) Top 3 WR TOTALS: 228 targets, 1,681 yards (7.37 yards per target) 2015 Maclin: 124 targets, 1088 yards (8.7 yards per target) 2015 Wilson: 57 targets, 451 yards (7.9 yards per target) 2015 Conley: 31 targets, 199 yards (6.4 yards per target) Top 3 WR TOTALS: 212 targets, 1,738 yards (8.19 yards per target) Not sure what this means, if anything. Draw your own conclusions.
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