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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 05-23-2016, 11:34 PM   #1126
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Kind of sad, but whoever fills in for Gordon is almost certainly going to improve on Gordon's production so far this year. When Gordon comes back, it will be considered "his" position to take back...but depending on how well the fill-in played, there could be some awkward conversations. And if Alex isn't real good right away, there's gonna be talk of benching or semi-platooning him.
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Old 05-23-2016, 11:39 PM   #1127
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Alex is our Joe Mauer, our Konerko. A lifetime achievement award, 10s of millions wasted for past production. So the fans can feel good rooting their sucky player who is on the DL much of the time. Awesome!
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:04 AM   #1128
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Old 05-24-2016, 10:23 AM   #1129
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It's been discussed briefly, but what would it take to get Rich Hill from the A's? He's only signed for this season ($6M), so short term commitment. He's been outstanding since coming back to the majors late last year. I'm not sure there's a Zobrist out there this year for our offense, but Hill could be a nice shot in the arm for the rotation.
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Old 05-24-2016, 10:31 AM   #1130
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Injuries aside, you've got to be encouraged by the fact that we've narrowed the gap with Chicago from 7 to 3 games. Yeah, it's a marathon...but you don't want to fall that far back and stay there.

Honestly, I'm more concerned about Cleveland long-term though.
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Old 05-24-2016, 10:37 AM   #1131
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:41 AM   #1132
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Yeah think we signed the wrong guy. Gordon's contract may not end up being bad, but it's a scary thought right now when you compare the alternative Zobrist getting paid less. I know he's older but he's having a great year so far. 2.2 WAR, .335 avg, 31 walks already. Plays a more coveted position of need.

Plus we have a plethora of inexpensive outfielders who should be a great fit.

Paulo Orlando
Brett Eibner
Jorge Bonifacio
Rey Fuentes
Whit Merrifield
Jose Martinez**now DFAd
Travis Snider
Hunter Dozier CAN play some OF

We really have too many of them. Good problem to have, but our system appears to be weaker on pitchers, position players than OFs
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:00 PM   #1133
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We really have too many of them. Good problem to have, but our system appears to be weaker on pitchers, position players than OFs
Ya think that's because the Royals traded away five pitchers last year?
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:21 PM   #1134
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Ya think that's because the Royals traded away five pitchers last year?
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:48 PM   #1135
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It's been discussed briefly, but what would it take to get Rich Hill from the A's? He's only signed for this season ($6M), so short term commitment. He's been outstanding since coming back to the majors late last year. I'm not sure there's a Zobrist out there this year for our offense, but Hill could be a nice shot in the arm for the rotation.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:10 PM   #1136
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The same package it took for Cueto
No way he'd cost that much, although it will also depend on other starters available --- supply and demand
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:19 PM   #1137
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I think a lot of us want Zobrist back but when his price went off the map for good reason I for one want Gordo back. Who could have guessed it would be this bad.
Zobrist plays a position that is much more difficult to fill with a quality player. His versatility adds to his value. He was older, but we're in win-now mode. Gordon has been a great Royal, but he's much easier to replace.
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Also, who of the pitchers we traded away would actually be helping us out right now besides Brandon Finnegan? So we'd have one extra guy, who probably would still be in the bullpen instead of where we need help in the bottom of the rotation.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:56 PM   #1139
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I would be surprised if Rich Hill commands the same type of package Cueto did, but those trade deadline deals are tough to predict.

Re: Gordon, his slow start this year is concerning, but there also is a lot of time left on that deal to be blasting it as an awful deal. From a PR perspective internally and externally, it had value.

I still believe he'll produce enough to be a cost neutral guy at the end of it all, personally.

Re: Zobrist, that decision wasn't just about money, it was about where he wanted to play and for whom.

He took less money than others offered to sign in Chicago, so KC offering more years or dollars might not have made any difference.

My biggest issue with him is that KC uses Alex Gordon in a position in the lineup that doesn't maximize his skills. His OBP ability and base running are Gordon's two biggest strengths, and they're both wasted hitting 6th. KC would be better off hitting Gordon in front of Cain/Hosmer/etc.




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No way he'd cost that much, although it will also depend on other starters available --- supply and demand
What do you mean "no way"? Hill has been unhittable for 14 starts (.180 avg against). He's 7-3 2.16 ERA vs Cueto 7-6 2.62 ERA when he was traded last year. Hill only avg 6 IP vs 7 IP for Cueto but he will be the big fish avail this deadline and will command a ton
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