Terez says "the Chiefs have done plenty of background on" Mahomes. - Page 4

**YayMike** · 03-24-2017, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

RBs in general. We're in a deep draft for RBs. We can get a starter ****ing anywhere.

But McCaffery especially. We have so many gadget ****ers that operate out of the short passing game. Ware is a fantastic pass-catching RB. And we line up Hill in the backfield all the time.

Gotcha. I think Cook is a game changer though. Not disputing we don't have bigger needs in the first, but I think he could really make an immediate impact if our strategy is Best Player Available.

**Bowser** · 03-24-2017, 07:52 AM

Houston won't let Mahomes slip by them, and that is assuming he makes it that far. If he is sitting there at 24 and we want him, we are going to HAVE to trade up to get him.

KC_Lee · 03-24-2017, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Houston won't let Mahomes slip by them, and that is assuming he makes it that far. If he is sitting there at 24 and we want him, we are going to HAVE to trade up to get him.

Swap with the Titans and get pick 18, draft best QB available, sell millions of jerseys, insane profit.

DJ's left nut · 03-24-2017, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Houston won't let Mahomes slip by them, and that is assuming he makes it that far. If he is sitting there at 24 and we want him, we are going to HAVE to trade up to get him.

Then we take Kizer.

I don't think they'll both be gone by our pick. And frankly, I think O'Brien would prefer Kizer to Mahomes but that's just my impression.

Chiefnj2 · 03-24-2017, 10:09 AM

Mahomes will not go in the first.

raybec 4 · 03-24-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Mahomes will not go in the first.

Based on what? He's working out or meeting with 18 teams. That in itself should be telling.

Chiefnj2 · 03-24-2017, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

Based on what? He's working out or meeting with 18 teams. That in itself should be telling.

Based on the fact that he's not that good and is the 4th or 5th ranked QB in a semi-poor draft class.

ct · 03-24-2017, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Then we take Kizer.

I don't think they'll both be gone by our pick. And frankly, I think O'Brien would prefer Kizer to Mahomes but that's just my impression.

I get this feeling too. after teh osweiler fiasco, just feel o'brien is gonna want a guy that will toe the line on and off the field. not sure mahomes is a trustworthy "program" guy this year.

**buddha** · 04-04-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Then we take Kizer.

I don't think they'll both be gone by our pick. And frankly, I think O'Brien would prefer Kizer to Mahomes but that's just my impression.

Andy Reid likes smart/accurate QBs above all. Kizer and Mahomes are physical freaks, but neither is "accurate" in the way KC's offense requires. I know the combine isn't a true test for QB skills, but Kizer couldn't hit anybody in stride. Mahomes has a GREAT arm, but he is going to need a lot of work.

I think the only QB that really makes sense for KC's scheme is Watson (and he's not Mr. Accuracy either...but better than others). Yes...we would have to move up to get him, but he's a proven winner and he's stays composed under pressure.

raybec 4 · 04-04-2017, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Andy Reid likes smart/accurate QBs above all. Kizer and Mahomes are physical freaks, but neither is "accurate" in the way KC's offense requires. I know the combine isn't a true test for QB skills, but Kizer couldn't hit anybody in stride. Mahomes has a GREAT arm, but he is going to need a lot of work.

I think the only QB that really makes sense for KC's scheme is Watson (and he's not Mr. Accuracy either...but better than others). Yes...we would have to move up to get him, but he's a proven winner and he's stays composed under pressure.

Man, I couldn't disagree more. Watson is the biggest risk in the group IMO based on arm talent alone. Kizer and Mahomes can fix their mechanics and footwork, Watson's arm isn't going to get better as he ages.

**buddha** · 04-04-2017, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

Man, I couldn't disagree more. Watson is the biggest risk in the group IMO based on arm talent alone. Kizer and Mahomes can fix their mechanics and footwork, Watson's arm isn't going to get better as he ages.

There are *some* examples of QBs who fixed their mechanics when they got to the NFL, but they are the exception. I like Kizer's size and arm strength, but he's over valued (likely due to the ND factor). Mahomes is really interesting to me...the ball explodes out of his hand.

Watson doesn't have elite arm strength, but I think his arm talent is above average. I think the other things that matter for QBs (leadership, smarts, vision, etc.) are very high with Watson.

DJ's left nut · 04-04-2017, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Andy Reid likes smart/accurate QBs above all. Kizer and Mahomes are physical freaks, but neither is "accurate" in the way KC's offense requires. I know the combine isn't a true test for QB skills, but Kizer couldn't hit anybody in stride. Mahomes has a GREAT arm, but he is going to need a lot of work.

I think the only QB that really makes sense for KC's scheme is Watson (and he's not Mr. Accuracy either...but better than others). Yes...we would have to move up to get him, but he's a proven winner and he's stays composed under pressure.

{facepalm}

"HE'S A WINNER!" strikes again.

I repeat - 'winners' are a myth. Great NFL QBs come from shit programs in college all the time and virtually all QBs from great programs tend to suck in the pros.

There is absolutely no correlation at all between winning percentage in college and NFL success and frankly, if I were going to bet, I'd say any degree of statistically significant figure would point to an inverse relationship.

**buddha** · 04-04-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

{facepalm}

"HE'S A WINNER!" strikes again.

I repeat - 'winners' are a myth. Great NFL QBs come from shit programs in college all the time and virtually all QBs from great programs tend to suck in the pros.

There is absolutely no correlation at all between winning percentage in college and NFL success and frankly, if I were going to bet, I'd say any degree of statistically significant figure would point to an inverse relationship.

Better to land those highly coveted KU QBs who never win based on your new inverse relationship law.

The draft is a massive crap shoot and we have two very good examples of Watson playing well against the closest thing to an NFL defense in college. What about him DON'T you like...let's start there.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-24-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Houston won't let Mahomes slip by them, and that is assuming he makes it that far. If he is sitting there at 24 and we want him, we are going to HAVE to trade up to get him.

You mean the 23rd pick the Raiders own the 24th

O.city · 03-24-2017, 10:03 AM

After seeing McCaffrey run routes at his day, I'd gladly take him here.

I think the dude ends up being Brian Westbrook 2.0 with the ability to play some wr.

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