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Old 03-14-2011, 11:31 AM   #1
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including the one I signed up for last night, 8 I believe. I use one primary card for purchases, one for specific purchases that get me a great benefit, and several aren't used at all that are either old primary cards or ones I signed up for bonus offers like I outlined above.

I've also had another 6 or 7 that I have closed over the years.
Gotcha. Seems like a lot to me, but having that credit there in an emergency situation would be nice.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:51 AM   #2
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Gotcha. Seems like a lot to me, but having that credit there in an emergency situation would be nice.
Your credit score is partially based on available credit, but you also take a hit for closing accounts.

My credit score today is around 800-820.

I totally get the credit card debt trap...in fact I fell into it hard myself years ago and have paid off over 30k in credit card debt.

But that doesn't make credit cards evil....any more than a gun is evil. Both are a tool.....how you use it is on you.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:59 AM   #3
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Your credit score is partially based on available credit, but you also take a hit for closing accounts.

My credit score today is around 800-820.

I totally get the credit card debt trap...in fact I fell into it hard myself years ago and have paid off over 30k in credit card debt.

But that doesn't make credit cards evil....any more than a gun is evil. Both are a tool.....how you use it is on you.

Wife & I have a few cards between us. I've been bad about them for awhile and just recently decided it was time to put a stop to it - I've got her card paid down almost to $0 and then going to start on mine. Going to start using them monthly for a few things and then pay them off each month. But it'll be nice to have something to fall back on when the inevitable emergency happens and we need $4000 right now.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:06 PM   #4
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Wife & I have a few cards between us. I've been bad about them for awhile and just recently decided it was time to put a stop to it - I've got her card paid down almost to $0 and then going to start on mine. Going to start using them monthly for a few things and then pay them off each month. But it'll be nice to have something to fall back on when the inevitable emergency happens and we need $4000 right now.
My personal experience is that you can save up $4,000 in cash pretty easily if you don't have debt.

I don't begrudge people a credit card. I would advise anyone to become debt free. From there, once all finances are completely under control, go ahead and use credit cards for the points or whatever. Just pay them off every month.

People who bag on Dave Ramsey are missing the point. Donald Trump isn't calling his show. He's getting calls from people who have lost control of their financial lives, generally for no reason other than being sloppy.

Not everyone needs to go on P90X, and not everyone needs to go full-blown Dave Ramsey. That doesn't mean that they aren't effective plans.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:12 PM   #5
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My personal experience is that you can save up $4,000 in cash pretty easily if you don't have debt.

I don't begrudge people a credit card. I would advise anyone to become debt free. From there, once all finances are completely under control, go ahead and use credit cards for the points or whatever. Just pay them off every month.

People who bag on Dave Ramsey are missing the point. Donald Trump isn't calling his show. He's getting calls from people who have lost control of their financial lives, generally for no reason other than being sloppy.

Not everyone needs to go on P90X, and not everyone needs to go full-blown Dave Ramsey. That doesn't mean that they aren't effective plans.

Exactly. I want to get ourselves as debt free as I can. I know that all of our issue is because I tend to be the "Ohhhhh, I want to buy that" type of person. I've gotten better at that issue, and now I'm working on getting the debt we have (which isn't much) eliminated.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:21 PM   #6
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Exactly. I want to get ourselves as debt free as I can. I know that all of our issue is because I tend to be the "Ohhhhh, I want to buy that" type of person. I've gotten better at that issue, and now I'm working on getting the debt we have (which isn't much) eliminated.
I've heard people say things like, "fat people don't lose weight until they hate being fat more than they enjoy eating". It works the same way with money. Once you reach a point where you hate being in debt more than you enjoy living beyond your means, it's pretty easy to get out of debt. Once you are totally out of debt for a while, you can regroup and reassess your financial plan.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:56 PM   #7
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I've heard people say things like, "fat people don't lose weight until they hate being fat more than they enjoy eating". It works the same way with money. Once you reach a point where you hate being in debt more than you enjoy living beyond your means, it's pretty easy to get out of debt. Once you are totally out of debt for a while, you can regroup and reassess your financial plan.
Don't get me wrong, we don't have a lot of debt (less than $9,000), but I am to the point of being tired of having it there. It'll be nice to get it down to a # that we can pay off each month.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:01 PM   #8
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Your credit score is partially based on available credit, but you also take a hit for closing accounts.

My credit score today is around 800-820.

I totally get the credit card debt trap...in fact I fell into it hard myself years ago and have paid off over 30k in credit card debt.

But that doesn't make credit cards evil....any more than a gun is evil. Both are a tool.....how you use it is on you.
I agree with this to an extent, but a credit card would be like a gun if 3 out of 5 gun owners shoot someone every year.

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# Approximately 74.9 percent of the U.S. families surveyed in 2004 had credit cards, and 58 percent of those families carried a balance. In 2001, 76.2 percent of families had credit cards, and 55 percent of those families carried a balance. (Source: Federal Reserve Bulletin, February 2006)

# About a quarter have no credit cards, and an additional 30 percent or so pay off their balances every month. (Source: Federal Reserve Board survey of consumer finances, 2004)

Average credit card debt per household with credit card debt: $14,750

Average APR on credit card with a balance on it: 13.67 percent, as of November 2010 (Source: Federal Reserve's G.19 report on consumer credit, November 2010)

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So only 30% of the population has credit cards without a balance, and the average debt is pushing $15,000. Given the average rate charged, the average household pays over $2,000 in interest per year or about 5% of their gross income.
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Gotcha. Seems like a lot to me, but having that credit there in an emergency situation would be nice.
Good to have that credit if you need it but better to have the cash if you need it and then you don't have to pay it back to a bank.
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