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Old 04-03-2017, 10:23 AM   Topic Starter
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Alex is a Tier 5 how bout dah?

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Old 04-03-2017, 10:27 AM   #2
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Tier 5: Guys, veterans and place holders

2016: Alex Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jay Cutler
2017: Smith, Flacco, Palmer, Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer, Mike Glennon, Sam Bradford

Flacco needs a bounce-back season after going through expected rough patches in his return from ACL surgery a year ago. He still has no weapons and Baltimore’s defense has fallen off significantly from its stint as a perennial Super Bowl threat and pressure is mounting for Flacco to get back to top form. He’s thrown 17 interceptions in the last two seasons (26 games), which has to stop. This is Palmer’s last stand, after seriously contemplating retirement a year ago. I have tempered expectations, at best, for Glennon in Chicago, and Bradford takes a small step up from a year ago after staying healthy and managing the game with the Vikings.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:29 AM   #3
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I take Flacco over smith.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:33 AM   #4
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this is just a dumb exercise. Ryan isn't a top qb? Carr is 2nd tier? He's never played a playoff game. Dak? Give me a break. This is idiocy.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:05 AM   #5
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this is just a dumb exercise. Ryan isn't a top qb? Carr is 2nd tier? He's never played a playoff game. Dak? Give me a break. This is idiocy.
So where would you rank Carr?

Oh, and I'd guess 90% + of Chiefs fans would take Dak over Smith today.
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:13 PM   #6
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So where would you rank Carr?

Oh, and I'd guess 90% + of Chiefs fans would take Dak over Smith today.
I probably would because he's young and not beaten down yet. But to insist with full confidence he's a brand apart is silly.

He's won, . . . in the regular season, with an embarrassment of riches in the things people insist Alex needs to win. . . in the regular season.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:30 AM   #7
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They obviously arent factoring in hidden touchdowns, setting up the punter, and gigabytes.
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I don't agree.

Smith should be Tier 4 at least. How can you say Alex Smith isn't a "guy you can win with" when he's one of the most winning QB's in the last five years?
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I don't agree.

Smith should be Tier 4 at least. How can you say Alex Smith isn't a "guy you can win with" when he's one of the most winning QB's in the last five years?
Smith is a guy who won't lose you the game, not the guy who will win you the game.
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If there were ever a category made for Alex Smith, it'd be "Guy you can win with".
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Smith is a guy who won't lose you the game, not the guy who will win you the game.
Gee, can you win if you don't lose?
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I don't agree.

Smith should be Tier 4 at least. How can you say Alex Smith isn't a "guy you can win with" when he's one of the most winning QB's in the last five years?
Alex Smith is stone soup.

You can win with him provided you have a top 10 defense and running game to complement his shit passing.
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Alex Smith is stone soup.

You can win with him provided you have a top 10 defense and running game to complement his shit passing.
I'm of the camp that it's time to move on from Smith. That being said, last year kind of goes against what you said here. The Chiefs didn't have much of a running game in the 2nd half of the season nor did they have a top 10 defense.
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I'm of the camp that it's time to move on from Smith. That being said, last year kind of goes against what you said here. The Chiefs didn't have much of a running game in the 2nd half of the season nor did they have a top 10 defense.
The Chiefs were top 10 in points allowed and their running backs produced the same number of rushing yards they did a year ago.

The only difference in the running game was Alex Smith's legs drying up.
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I don't agree.

Smith should be Tier 4 at least. How can you say Alex Smith isn't a "guy you can win with" when he's one of the most winning QB's in the last five years?
1-3 isn't a most winning g guys in KC
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