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Old 09-16-2014, 07:05 PM   #1
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GoTurd, can you break down the tape of Luke Joeckel?
I'm curious about this. A lot of posters dismissed Joeckel with little substance to support their stance. I remember saying I could see some areas where Fisher was intriguing but that Joeckel was realistically more likely to succeed in the NFL.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:08 PM   #2
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I'm curious about this. A lot of posters dismissed Joeckel with little substance to support their stance. I remember saying I could see some areas where Fisher was intriguing but that Joeckel was realistically more likely to succeed in the NFL.
Same here. My preference was Joeckel...
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:18 PM   #3
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I'm curious about this. A lot of posters dismissed Joeckel with little substance to support their stance. I remember saying I could see some areas where Fisher was intriguing but that Joeckel was realistically more likely to succeed in the NFL.
Joeckel was an issue of pride. Everybody told us to draft Joeckel the entire 2012 season while Albert was doing pretty well at LT. It was the whole, "You've got a 2-14 team with a decent LT who just needs a new contract. You have the #1 overall pick. Save the hassle of negotiating a new deal... just draft an OT at #1!"

And that was being said to fans of a 2-14 team.

It made me puke with anger during the season to hear draft dweebs like Kiper suggest that.

It turns out Fisher was even worse, but Joeckel was the poster boy. We had been brainwashed to associate him with all the worst things about the world. His very name turned was a trigger for emotional torture, like Beethoven's 9th was in Clockwork Orange.

****, and you think about B14ckm0n? Remember that troll? I laughed and laughed when the Jaguars drafted Joeckel and that turd got raped by his own dildo. That douchebag would still be trolling these forums if we had drafted Joeckel.

Joeckel was the better player, but **** that shit right now. I still don't give a gnat fart about that. The pick was already ruined when we traded what we did for Alex Smith and basically told Albert, "Here's a tag. You have one year to get your shit moved out."
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:55 PM   #4
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Joeckel was an issue of pride. Everybody told us to draft Joeckel the entire 2012 season while Albert was doing pretty well at LT. It was the whole, "You've got a 2-14 team with a decent LT who just needs a new contract. You have the #1 overall pick. Save the hassle of negotiating a new deal... just draft an OT at #1!"

And that was being said to fans of a 2-14 team.

It made me puke with anger during the season to hear draft dweebs like Kiper suggest that.

It turns out Fisher was even worse, but Joeckel was the poster boy. We had been brainwashed to associate him with all the worst things about the world. His very name turned was a trigger for emotional torture, like Beethoven's 9th was in Clockwork Orange.

****, and you think about B14ckm0n? Remember that troll? I laughed and laughed when the Jaguars drafted Joeckel and that turd got raped by his own dildo. That douchebag would still be trolling these forums if we had drafted Joeckel.

Joeckel was the better player, but **** that shit right now. I still don't give a gnat fart about that. The pick was already ruined when we traded what we did for Alex Smith and basically told Albert, "Here's a tag. You have one year to get your shit moved out."
It's called moving the uprights. We complained for years about taking safe picks. Now we demand that nfl players be ready right away.

Either left tackle was a stupid ass pick. But people acting like joeckl was a better pick because he was safer is the definition of flip flopping through hindsight.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:58 PM   #5
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It's called moving the uprights. We complained for years about taking safe picks. Now we demand that nfl players be ready right away.

Either left tackle was a stupid ass pick. But people acting like joeckl was a better pick because he was safer is the definition of flip flopping through hindsight.
Poe was a risky pick.

Ford was a risky pick.

Fisher wasn't a risky pick. He was a stupid pick.

I don't know anything about Joeckel. I refused to watch him play or read his scouting reports. I still don't care. I'm far from a "We should have drafted Joeckel!" guy.

Our team would still be 0-2 right now, and we still would have lost to the Colts last year in the playoffs.
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:38 PM   #6
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:39 PM   #7
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but fans think the lowest rated qb in the league is doing a heckuva job, so of course they're impressed with fisher
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:39 PM   #8
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Such insightful break downs. Nothing more than a monkey flinging shit.
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Albert had a good rookie season to fall back on though. He had shown something that year.

Fisher is a giant bag o' fail.
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Albert had a good rookie season to fall back on though. He had shown something that year.

Fisher is a giant bag o' fail.
Fisher, Year 2 (2014), after two games: -7.4 overall, -5.4 on pass protection.

Albert, Year 2 (2009), after two games: -0.5 overall, -0.7 on pass protection.

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The only thing I can compare him to is Kwame Harris. He has done a better job of not as many false starts and holding flags that bring back 50 yard TDs that made Kwame Harris maybe the worst OT in the NFL.
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This. He isn't playing good now, but if he comes around like Staley in a few years, you'll love having him.
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This. He isn't playing good now, but if he comes around like Staley in a few years, you'll love having him.
I loved having Branden Albert as my LT, who didn't cost me the #1 overall ****ing pick.
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This. He isn't playing good now, but if he comes around like Staley in a few years, you'll love having him.
Without looking back with what is known now who would you have taken with the #1 overall? And who would you cut on the current team to pay Albert's Salary?
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