Chiefs Offseason, What-ifs, D-Bowe and Trades - Page 3

HoneyBadger · 11-05-2013, 09:55 PM

Let's face it A. Smith is going to be the QB at least one more year here. He is getting the job done and not great. So might as well improve around him, so what if:

We trade Bowe for a second rounder (maybe 3rd). We'd nearly get back the pick we lost for Smith.

We can then pick up a top WR, like Nicks or Maclin, to replace Bowe's average numbers.

We can then pick a WR round one in the draft and have the Bowe pick for some help on the line?

Yes, Bowe was just resigned, but if we could find a buyer...

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 11-06-2013, 11:43 AM

We made to week ten. Before the, "There is always next season", talk began.

baby steps

King_Chief_Fan · 11-06-2013, 11:58 AM

Tombstone RJ · 11-06-2013, 12:52 PM

it's not bowe who's the problem...

Mile High Mania · 11-06-2013, 01:01 PM

Bowe's 2010 season skews his overall production a bit wth the 15 TDs, but overall, I think he's about a 75 catch / 1,100 yd / 5 TD guy on average in a good offense.

He is on pace to have his fewest receptions and yards in a 16 game season, by far. But, again I think it's due to the way the offense is set up this year.

I don't think Bowe is the problem, but I also don't think he's that elite WR to lead a team... I think you bring in someone to balance the other side of the field with Bowe in the lineup. I really don't think that WR is in KC right now, or you keep what you have and get a real TE threat.

Moving Bowe for another guy with similar or slightly better production over his career elsewhere doesn't fix anything or improve anything in my view.

Alex Smith has completed only 188 of his 315 passes (59.7%). Smith has attempted 18 fewer passes than Peyton Manning (who has completed 237 for 71.2%). Think about that for a second... only 18 fewer pass attempts than Manning (in one more game obviously).

It's the weapons around Bowe... they're just not great at all. I think you build around the guy that you recently paid big $'s too and see what happens. But, then again ... Smith has never been a prolific passer with top 12 QB types of stats on a regular basis.

So, knowing that... how do you really think you can fix the woes of the passing game?

Hammock Parties · 11-06-2013, 01:02 PM

Bowe is Roddy White if he had a QB even close to Matt Ryan's ability.

He's never had one.

ChiefsCountry · 11-06-2013, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Bowe's 2010 season skews his overall production a bit wth the 15 TDs, but overall, I think he's about a 75 catch / 1,100 yd / 5 TD guy on average in a good offense.

He is on pace to have his fewest receptions and yards in a 16 game season, by far. But, again I think it's due to the way the offense is set up this year.

I don't think Bowe is the problem, but I also don't think he's that elite WR to lead a team... I think you bring in someone to balance the other side of the field with Bowe in the lineup. I really don't think that WR is in KC right now, or you keep what you have and get a real TE threat.

Moving Bowe for another guy with similar or slightly better production over his career elsewhere doesn't fix anything or improve anything in my view.

Alex Smith has completed only 188 of his 315 passes (59.7%). Smith has attempted 18 fewer passes than Peyton Manning (who has completed 237 for 71.2%). Think about that for a second... only 18 fewer pass attempts than Manning (in one more game obviously).

It's the weapons around Bowe... they're just not great at all. I think you build around the guy that you recently paid big $'s too and see what happens. But, then again ... Smith has never been a prolific passer with top 12 QB types of stats on a regular basis.

So, knowing that... how do you really think you can fix the woes of the passing game?

Bowe has never had a quarterback.

Mile High Mania · 11-06-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Bowe is Roddy White if he had a QB even close to Matt Ryan's ability.

He's never had one.

Ummm... I don't think that's near accurate.

Mile High Mania · 11-06-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bowe has never had a quarterback.

True, but he's got an upgrade at QB now by all accounts and he's on pace for his worst year ever.

Really good WRs can most often times produce well with anyone at QB. If you're talking about the top tier or two.

SDChiefs · 11-06-2013, 01:05 PM

**** off!

ChiefsCountry · 11-06-2013, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

True, but he's got an upgrade at QB now by all accounts and he's on pace for his worst year ever.

Smith is Cassel without the turnovers.

Hammock Parties · 11-06-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ummm... I don't think that's near accurate.

What does Roddy White have that Bowe doesn't?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-06-2013, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Bowe is Roddy White if he had a QB even close to Matt Ryan's ability.

He's never had one.

I don't think you've checked Matt Ryan's stat line lately

Brock · 11-06-2013, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

True, but he's got an upgrade at QB now by all accounts and he's on pace for his worst year ever.

Really good WRs can most often times produce well with anyone at QB. If you're talking about the top tier or two.

It's arguable whether there really is much of an upgrade at qb.

**RealSNR** · 11-06-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

True, but he's got an upgrade at QB now by all accounts and he's on pace for his worst year ever.

Really good WRs can most often times produce well with anyone at QB. If you're talking about the top tier or two.

Explain how he's been awesome with shitpiles like Cassel, Thigpen, and Palko, but now that he has this "upgrade" in Smith his numbers are down.

Smith IS an upgrade over those QBs. Substantially. But that doesn't mean he's the kind of upgrade that will make it easier for Bowe to get the kinds of numbers he's used to.

In that context, talking purely about WR stats, Smith is NOT an upgrade. He's a downgrade.

ChiefRocka · 11-06-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

How is this being a troll. There have been a million worse ideas posted here.

The fact that you put "OC" in your profile location makes you a douche.

11-05-2013, 09:55 PM
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3477229	Bowe's 2010 season skews his overall production a bit wth the 15 TDs, but overall, I think he's about a 75 catch / 1,100 yd / 5 TD guy on average in a good offense. He is on pace to have his fewest receptions and yards in a 16 game season, by far. But, again I think it's due to the way the offense is set up this year. I don't think Bowe is the problem, but I also don't think he's that elite WR to lead a team... I think you bring in someone to balance the other side of the field with Bowe in the lineup. I really don't think that WR is in KC right now, or you keep what you have and get a real TE threat. Moving Bowe for another guy with similar or slightly better production over his career elsewhere doesn't fix anything or improve anything in my view. Alex Smith has completed only 188 of his 315 passes (59.7%). Smith has attempted 18 fewer passes than Peyton Manning (who has completed 237 for 71.2%). Think about that for a second... only 18 fewer pass attempts than Manning (in one more game obviously). It's the weapons around Bowe... they're just not great at all. I think you build around the guy that you recently paid big $'s too and see what happens. But, then again ... Smith has never been a prolific passer with top 12 QB types of stats on a regular basis. So, knowing that... how do you really think you can fix the woes of the passing game? __________________
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