Chiefs Chiefs GM: Eric Berry's battle with cancer going well

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-26-2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

A lot of bad things happen every day using the excuse "it's a business". It's a BILLION DOLLAR business that can afford to pay a guy that has given the team so much.

Regardless of the business, it's not good business for the Chiefs to take a $5 million dollar cap hit because of Berry's situation.

It makes them less competitive to pay a man who can't play.

ToxSocks · 03-26-2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Regardless of the business, it's not good business for the Chiefs to take a $5 million dollar cap hit because of Berry's situation.

It makes them less competitive to pay a man who can't play.

Then consider it a $5mill PR move and act of good faith.

It's ok to sometimes not treat people like a piece of property.

I understand that it's a business. But if a business wants to be charitable, then im fine with that too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-26-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Then consider it a $5mill PR move and act of good faith.

It's ok to sometimes not treat people like a piece of property.

I understand that it's a business. But if a business wants to be charitable, then im fine with that too.

IMO, it would be dumb for the Chiefs to eat $5 million in valuable cap space as a PR move because it weakens the team. $5 million nearly covers the rookie draft pool and would definitely account for a starter.

There are other ways that the Clarks can take care of Berry without sacrificing cap room.

ToxSocks · 03-26-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IMO, it would be dumb for the Chiefs to eat $5 million in valuable cap space as a PR move because it weakens the team. $5 million nearly covers the rookie draft pool and would definitely account for a starter.

There are other ways that the Clarks can take care of Berry without sacrificing cap room.

i'll simply never have an issue with a billion dollar business taking care of someone, rather than treating them like a disposable piece of property, no matter how they want to do it.

To me, it's a non issue. Im not going to ridicule a front office for putting people before business once every blue moon.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-26-2015, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

i'll simply never have an issue with a billion dollar business taking care of someone, rather than treating them like a disposable piece of property, no matter how they want to do it.

To me, it's a non issue. Im not going to ridicule a front office for putting people before business once every blue moon.

But this doesn't even make any sense. By putting him on the NFI list, how are the Chiefs not "taking care of him"?

My wife's company billed over $12 billion in 2012. They didn't pay her salary when she was diagnosed with cancer.

ToxSocks · 03-26-2015, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But this doesn't even make any sense. By putting him on the NFI list, how are the Chiefs not "taking care of him"?

My wife's company billed over $12 billion in 2012. They didn't pay her salary when she was diagnosed with cancer.

They likely will put him on the NFI list. There's still a lot of time left. I highly doubt they pay him his full salary and have never assumed they have.

Yes, i understand most business's won't pay for an employee that can't work. So when one does, kudos to them.

As i said, i simply don't care what the Chiefs do with their money, it's not going to get them any closer to a championship regardless.

DJ's left nut · 03-26-2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

As i said, i simply don't care what the Chiefs do with their money, it's not going to get them any closer to a championship regardless.

How do you figure?

Free up $5 million in cap space and if nothing else it rolls into 2016 and can be used to extend Poe, retain Houston....all kinds of fun stuff.

Unless you're just a complete fatalist and believe that the Chiefs are just multiplying by zero there, it absolutely does get us closer to a championship.

Then again, the board has plenty of complete fatalists so maybe that's the problem.

**BossChief** · 03-26-2015, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

IMO, it would be dumb for the Chiefs to eat $5 million in valuable cap space as a PR move because it weakens the team. $5 million nearly covers the rookie draft pool and would definitely account for a starter.

There are other ways that the Clarks can take care of Berry without sacrificing cap room.

I said this earlier and got blasted for it.

Eric has made more than ANY SAFETY IN NFL HISTORY, is covered by insurance and is exactly the reason things like the NFI list is there for.

IMO the Chiefs have 2 legitimate options here:

1) extend his contract with a nice roster bonus in 2016 and a SB of the 5.5m he would earn this year. That's the legit PR bonanza move I prefer them to do.

2) place him on the NFI and pay him part of his salary.

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Cutting him would send a bad message, but keeping his 5.5m base (after everything) would not only be irresponsible, it would HURT THE TEAMS CHANCES AT WINNING BIG GAMES IN 2015...as has been mentioned, 5.5m is a high quality starter that we would be going without because ...why, again?

**BossChief** · 03-26-2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

i'll simply never have an issue with a billion dollar business taking care of someone, rather than treating them like a disposable piece of property, no matter how they want to do it.

To me, it's a non issue. Im not going to ridicule a front office for putting people before business once every blue moon.

Would you be saying the same thing if this was about Alex Smith? Or is this mostly because of the emotional investment in this specific player?

I love Eric Berry as much as anyone, but this is a business and I'm sure Eric of all people understands that.

After all, he has made as much as he has at his age because ITS A BUSINESS.

ToxSocks · 03-26-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But again, this makes no sense to make the team LESS COMPETITIVE because Eric Berry has cancer.

Seriously Dude, this is some Johnny Cochran shit you're spewing.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Would you be saying the same thing if this was about Alex Smith? Or is this mostly because of the emotional investment in this specific player?

I love Eric Berry as much as anyone, but this is a business and I'm sure Eric of all people understands that.

After all, he has made as much as he has at his age because ITS A BUSINESS.

To some of you it's a business.

To me it's a form of entertainment.

I would say the same thing about any player, simply for the fact that i just dont care what billionaires do with their money.

If Clark Hunt wants to pay Berry because he feels it's the right thing to do, then so be it.

At the end of the day though, i believe berry's salary will be cut and he'll be on the NFI list.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-26-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

To some of you it's a business.

To me it's a form of entertainment.

I would say the same thing about any player, simply for the fact that i just dont care what billionaires do with their money.

If Clark Hunt wants to pay Berry because he feels it's the right thing to do, then so be it.

At the end of the day though, i believe berry's salary will be cut and he'll be on the NFI list.

Clark Hunt can compensate Berry in other ways, such as hiring him to do P.R. or in the front office or sign him to a personal services contract and so on.

I don't think that anyone is advocating that the Chiefs turn their back on Berry. But the fact is that he has a non-football illness and the Chiefs can most certainly use the $5 million in cap space. Also, I find it very unlikely that a player of Berry's status and contract doesn't have disability insurance, which would likely pay at least 80%, if not 100% of his salary.