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Old 04-28-2018, 02:39 PM  
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:41 PM   #61
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The area scout who was describing him compared him to LDT. Said LDT got the transition pretty quickly. Doesn't know if McKenzie will be that fast.

We can probably bet he won't get it that fast, and for LDT, that took a full season on the bench and another half season of shitty spot starting.

For McKenzie, I think he's a practice squad guy year one. If he manages to drag along and make the roster in his 2nd year, he's got a chance to show that the transition to guard idea was a good one.
One thing is McKenzie won't have the burden that LDT had. Still amazes me how LDT did both things at once.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:36 PM   #62
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen as big of legs as this dudes. Goddamn tree trunks
Dang. I'm not sure it's even possible to knock that guy down. His center of gravity is mid-thigh.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:48 PM   #63
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Only thing I dont like about this pick is if they want to develop him on the PS his dad can just snap him up at any time.
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:30 AM   #64
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People need to listen to this before continuing to be angry this pick.

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Old 04-29-2018, 01:25 AM   #65
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This is a really interesting pick to me. If you watch his film, he really does fire off the ball and get good leverage and extension pretty consistently. It’s just cool that this near UDFA level player was scouted as a DT and that trait was recognized and impressed enough for KC to draft him in a completely new position.

Veach has some balls man, plain and simple. He’s going to get his guys at no matter the price and banking on his abilities, which have proved successful thus far. This is going to be one fun ****ing decade.
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Old 04-29-2018, 02:09 AM   #66
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Alot higher hopes of him making it at OG than had he been selected to be a NT.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:14 AM   #67
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Maybe he can get us Choaklands game plan.
Honestly I think it would work the other way around.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:22 AM   #68
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Honestly I think it would work the other way around.
I’m not trying to be one of those overly paranoid people, but I’ve been thinking a lot about this. What if this kid DOES tell his dad our game plan?! We’ve dominated those pukes for years, so if we start losing to them all of the sudden, I’m going to be very suspicious.
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:27 PM   #69
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This is what I mean when I say I love picks like this one or even Tremon Smith coming from a small school. Feels like if McKenzie gets it all together he could turn into a stud.
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Old 04-29-2018, 12:38 PM   #70
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This is a really interesting pick to me. If you watch his film, he really does fire off the ball and get good leverage and extension pretty consistently. It’s just cool that this near UDFA level player was scouted as a DT and that trait was recognized and impressed enough for KC to draft him in a completely new position.

Veach has some balls man, plain and simple. He’s going to get his guys at no matter the price and banking on his abilities, which have proved successful thus far. This is going to be one fun ****ing decade.
man, you watch him...and then just pretend that's a offensive guard...yeah, I get it. You can coach technique, you can't coach what he IS. He's a powerful man. I'll bet this works out and Veach looks like a genius in a year or two.
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Old 04-29-2018, 01:52 PM   #71
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He could be good faster than you think. Playing OG isn't rocket science like some here think. 90% of the time you knock down the asshole in front of you or you look and watch for an asshole to knock down. The rest of the time you pull and run around the end looking for an asshole to knock down. Mongo could of been a OG and a good one at that.
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Kahlil can be our little Raiders spy...or more like our big, fat Raiders spy.
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Old 04-29-2018, 05:38 PM   #73
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He could be good faster than you think. Playing OG isn't rocket science like some here think. 90% of the time you knock down the asshole in front of you or you look and watch for an asshole to knock down. The rest of the time you pull and run around the end looking for an asshole to knock down. Mongo could of been a OG and a good one at that.
Rather simplistic.

Guards don't need to be as athletic, especially laterally, as tackles, but they need to have a lower center of gravity, more strength, better core flexibility, and far better field awareness. That awareness aspect is the real key to the position and it's what makes it so not every asshole can just be a guard.

Edit: When I say core flexibility, that means ability to flex at the core as they'll be bending more regularly and need to have the ability to extend and flatten much more than a tackle.
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The area scout who was describing him compared him to LDT. Said LDT got the transition pretty quickly. Doesn't know if McKenzie will be that fast.

We can probably bet he won't get it that fast, and for LDT, that took a full season on the bench and another half season of shitty spot starting.

For McKenzie, I think he's a practice squad guy year one. If he manages to drag along and make the roster in his 2nd year, he's got a chance to show that the transition to guard idea was a good one.

A problem with this pick is he's going to take time to develop. With his fathers's Raider connection I would think he would be a very tempting target to poach off our practice squad.
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A problem with this pick is he's going to take time to develop. With his fathers's Raider connection I would think he would be a very tempting target to poach off our practice squad.
We went through an entire 2014 season of starting Mike McGlynn, who is the worst OL for the Chiefs I've ever seen start multiple consecutive games. During that entire time, we didn't even consider throwing LDT into the fire once. But he was on the roster.

We may have to do a similar thing with McKenzie, particularly if we have our starting 5 PLUS Witzmann/Ehinger, Erving, and some guy like Devey. Adding Mackenzie to that would give us 9 OL on the roster, which I don't think is something Reid wants to do, exactly.
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