Football ESPN Outside the Lines Report: Goodell went easy on Spygate - Page 6

**Buehler445** · 09-08-2015, 09:15 AM

It's been all over ESPN Radio all morning. Report says that Goodell threw the book at Brady because he gave them a break on Spygate.

I didn't hear it all, but they alleged that the NFL destroyed evidence because they videoed a shitton of practices and Goodell wanted to limit the exposure to a few games. They said that Belichick even admitted to doing like 40 games but Goodell covered it up.

A couple other points that were brought up that were interesting was that Martz came out and said Goodell asked him to put out a statement saying he was satisfied with the investigation for the good of the league and he is absolutely not.

Also, the reporter said that former Pat players admitted to the Pats sending a low level guy to the other lockerroom while they were warming up to steal the scripted plays that most teams start with.

I haven't seen the piece, but a lot of the things this reporter spouted off were pretty damning. Usually OTL is pretty good, but this had a lot of conspiracy theory tone to it.

Has anyone read it?

**notorious** · 09-08-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Pathetic, homer tripe. Wow.

No matter what they try to tell themselves, everyone knows that their accomplishments are garbage.

Well, not the 97' Superbowl. I think Parcells and that team actually earned it.

**srvy** · 09-08-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Pretty much what I said all along. Goodell covered up Spygate the best he could to protect "the shield" (his job) ... and everyone literally forgot about it. It was done. No one even cared anymore. He played it wonderfully. And then the Patriots had to be the Patriots again ...

Now, Goodell clearly isn't going to be fired or resign. And if he did, he'd get a giant severance package where he'd have to sign confidentiality agreements ...

but I hope Kraft keeps pushing Goodell to the point of him going all Jose Canseco on that piece of shit franchise ... but this will never happen. Wishful thinking.

The owners should make it clear to Goodell that this shit isnt gonna fly anymore. Demand he keep a close eye on them. Then commence to curb stomping Kraft if he doesnt demand compliance from all his coaching staff.

Ha reports they knew 75% of the plays at home games on offense and defense. No wonder Crennel and Weis sucked everywhere after NE.

Wonder if Nick Saban learned this shit and does it in Alabama.

**notorious** · 09-08-2015, 05:02 PM

I can't believe that they messed with the helmet radios.

"It's just gamesmanship!"/mongloid dumb-****s

**srvy** · 09-08-2015, 05:10 PM

Boston False

Boston Deceitful

Boston Dishonest

Boston Strong Liars

**srvy** · 09-08-2015, 05:21 PM

Boston Frauds

Need to rename team New England Grifters

shocked · 09-08-2015, 05:45 PM

What's striking about this supposed infraction is the absence of a major investigation. The New York Jets will "sting" the taping of play signals. The NFL will "sting" the deflation of footballs. But in this case, teams chose to create fake scripts instead? As hated as the Patriots were, it never occurred to anyone to put a camera in the locker room and catch this in the act? That's an oddity to me, particularly given how much gossiping goes on between NFL teams.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/latest-...180544622.html

Yeah, this is where my thoughts are leaning towards too. We know about the tapes. But if Belichick was really doing all these rumored things again and again, for over a decade, and teams were actually de-bugging locker-rooms at NE because they were so paranoid...how was nothing ever found? No team ever thought of pulling a little sting operation over this kind of stuff, stuff that's way worse than taping signals, at that?

jspchief · 09-08-2015, 05:53 PM

Sounds like Goodell covered up the scale of the Patriots spying for the sake of preserving the league's image. Then the Patriots responded by continuing to skirt the rules. They get caught a second time and think they can bribe their way into brushing it under the rug, and Goodell wasn't playing this time.

The first mistake was letting the Pats off easy the first time. The second mistake was Goodell targeting the individual player too much when he should have hammered the organization into the dirt.

Ultimately the nfl suffers the most here. Everyone outside of Pats fans already knew that organization was dirty. But now the integrity of the NFL is even more tarnished as being corrupt in the eyes of many fans. I just hope the next time it's the owners that collectively take action to ensure the league maintains some semblance of sportsmanship and equality.

jspchief · 09-08-2015, 06:00 PM

Sounds like Goodell covered up the scale of the Patriots spying for the sake of preserving the league's image. Then the Patriots responded by continuing to skirt the rules. They get caught a second time and think they can bribe their way into brushing it under the rug, and Goodell wasn't playing this time.

The first mistake was letting the Pats off easy the first time. The second mistake was Goodell targeting the individual player too much when he should have hammered the organization into the dirt.

Ultimately the nfl suffers the most here. Everyone outside of Pats fans already knew that organization was dirty. But now the integrity of the NFL is even more tarnished as being corrupt in the eyes of many fans. I just hope the next time it's the owners that collectively take action to ensure the league maintains some semblance of sportsmanship and equality.

**srvy** · 09-08-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shocked

What's striking about this supposed infraction is the absence of a major investigation. The New York Jets will "sting" the taping of play signals. The NFL will "sting" the deflation of footballs. But in this case, teams chose to create fake scripts instead? As hated as the Patriots were, it never occurred to anyone to put a camera in the locker room and catch this in the act? That's an oddity to me, particularly given how much gossiping goes on between NFL teams.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/latest-...180544622.html

Yeah, this is where my thoughts are leaning towards too. We know about the tapes. But if Belichick was really doing all these rumored things again and again, for over a decade, and teams were actually de-bugging locker-rooms at NE because they were so paranoid...but nothing was ever found?

I doubt the NFL or the NFLPA would condone cameras in the locker room. If they have them its not something you would advertise. Would you want the company you work for to put cameras at the coffee station, lunch or break room or worse restroom?

But if I was a coach of opposing team I would always leave a bogus playbook lying around.

Al Bundy · 09-08-2015, 06:30 PM

Everyone knows the Patriots cheated.

shocked · 09-08-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy

I doubt the NFL or the NFLPA would condone cameras in the locker room. If they have them its not something you would advertise. Would you want the company you work for to put cameras at the coffee station, lunch or break room or worse restroom?

But if I was a coach of opposing team I would always leave a bogus playbook lying around.

This makes little sense though. The Patriots got caught in spygate and deflategate because Tannenbaum and Ryan Grigson simply spoke to the NFL to warn them, then caught them, and handed the evidence over the the league. That's all it took. So, there are rumors galore and teams are going so far as to try and de-bug the lockerroom to prevent it...but nothing else comes from this? No one pursues this?

Jerm · 09-08-2015, 07:00 PM

How the hell does Goodell keep his job if ANY part of this is true?

tk13 · 09-08-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

How the hell does Goodell keep his job if ANY part of this is true?

The NFL and ESPN seem to have a pretty good relationship. I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL actually leaked this to show that Goodell wasn't just trying to punish the sweet, innocent Patriots. Paint the picture that they're an underhanded organization who tries to cut every corner and deserves to be punished.

Bewbies · 09-08-2015, 07:07 PM

OF course the Pats are cheaters. But the more that comes out the worse Goddell looks. And if someone else gets caught cheating and actually gets punished by him he'll look even worse.

He's got to go.

**notorious** · 09-08-2015, 07:12 PM

Goodell should get shit-canned.

The initial investigation was a joke, and he destroyed evidence to protect the league.

He is a piece of shit that needs to go.

09-08-2015, 09:15 AM
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2294734	ESPN Outside the Lines Report: Goodell went easy on Spygate It's been all over ESPN Radio all morning. Report says that Goodell threw the book at Brady because he gave them a break on Spygate. I didn't hear it all, but they alleged that the NFL destroyed evidence because they videoed a shitton of practices and Goodell wanted to limit the exposure to a few games. They said that Belichick even admitted to doing like 40 games but Goodell covered it up. A couple other points that were brought up that were interesting was that Martz came out and said Goodell asked him to put out a statement saying he was satisfied with the investigation for the good of the league and he is absolutely not. Also, the reporter said that former Pat players admitted to the Pats sending a low level guy to the other lockerroom while they were warming up to steal the scripted plays that most teams start with. I haven't seen the piece, but a lot of the things this reporter spouted off were pretty damning. Usually OTL is pretty good, but this had a lot of conspiracy theory tone to it. Has anyone read it?
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09-08-2015, 05:45 PM	#81
shocked Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $10005067	What's striking about this supposed infraction is the absence of a major investigation. The New York Jets will "sting" the taping of play signals. The NFL will "sting" the deflation of footballs. But in this case, teams chose to create fake scripts instead? As hated as the Patriots were, it never occurred to anyone to put a camera in the locker room and catch this in the act? That's an oddity to me, particularly given how much gossiping goes on between NFL teams. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/latest-...180544622.html Yeah, this is where my thoughts are leaning towards too. We know about the tapes. But if Belichick was really doing all these rumored things again and again, for over a decade, and teams were actually de-bugging locker-rooms at NE because they were so paranoid...how was nothing ever found? No team ever thought of pulling a little sting operation over this kind of stuff, stuff that's way worse than taping signals, at that? Last edited by shocked; 09-08-2015 at 06:33 PM..
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09-08-2015, 05:53 PM	#82
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Sounds like Goodell covered up the scale of the Patriots spying for the sake of preserving the league's image. Then the Patriots responded by continuing to skirt the rules. They get caught a second time and think they can bribe their way into brushing it under the rug, and Goodell wasn't playing this time. The first mistake was letting the Pats off easy the first time. The second mistake was Goodell targeting the individual player too much when he should have hammered the organization into the dirt. Ultimately the nfl suffers the most here. Everyone outside of Pats fans already knew that organization was dirty. But now the integrity of the NFL is even more tarnished as being corrupt in the eyes of many fans. I just hope the next time it's the owners that collectively take action to ensure the league maintains some semblance of sportsmanship and equality. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Sounds like Goodell covered up the scale of the Patriots spying for the sake of preserving the league's image. Then the Patriots responded by continuing to skirt the rules. They get caught a second time and think they can bribe their way into brushing it under the rug, and Goodell wasn't playing this time. The first mistake was letting the Pats off easy the first time. The second mistake was Goodell targeting the individual player too much when he should have hammered the organization into the dirt. Ultimately the nfl suffers the most here. Everyone outside of Pats fans already knew that organization was dirty. But now the integrity of the NFL is even more tarnished as being corrupt in the eyes of many fans. I just hope the next time it's the owners that collectively take action to ensure the league maintains some semblance of sportsmanship and equality. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	OF course the Pats are cheaters. But the more that comes out the worse Goddell looks. And if someone else gets caught cheating and actually gets punished by him he'll look even worse. He's got to go.
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