Chiefs Patrick Mahomes and the Legend of the No-Look Pass - Page 4

Dante84 · 05-06-2018, 11:34 AM

First, some video examples of Mahomes no-look passes:

Spoiler!

Next, some articles:

Spoiler!

A few thoughts and questions:

- In the heat of the game, if performed correctly, this is almost an impossible play to defend. You essentially have to hope that the intended receiver as equally surprised as everyone else that the ball is being delivered, and hope for a drop/miss/tipped ball.

- Instead of just capitalizing on this trait/skill-set when a play breaks down, how can Reid/Bienemy/Mahomes craft plays for this purpose? Is it possible that they design a package of plays with this in mind?

- It seems to require a rollout, or a step up in the pocket, to get defenders to pull themselves out of position and commit to option A, when Mahomes throws back to Option B. Perhaps not, though?

- Lastly, if you're up for the task, I'd love to hear (or see - ms paint?) your ideas for what the designed "No-Look" plays would look like.

**kysirsoze** · 05-09-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I'm glad this thing is continuing to get promoted. I've seen Mahomes do two things that I didn't think quarterbacks were capable of, the no-look pass and throwing a curve ball.

He's magic.

In case nobody remembers the curve ball (slider?)

Holy shit I hadn't noticed the curve on that before. Who the **** is this guy? How the hell is he the Chiefs' QB?

jallmon · 05-09-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I'm glad this thing is continuing to get promoted. I've seen Mahomes do two things that I didn't think quarterbacks were capable of, the no-look pass and throwing a curve ball.

He's magic.

In case nobody remembers the curve ball (slider?)

Wow. Didn't see that the first 40 times I played this clip. That ball swerves to PM2's right at the end.

I wonder if Andy has a set of clips of PM2's throws on his cell phone. He can watch them anytime he wants, as long as he wants. He may not be able to see it, but he probably has a roaring stiffy all the time, too. I would.

Kiimo · 05-09-2018, 05:24 PM

Don't kinkshame

Mother****erJones · 05-09-2018, 08:04 PM

Mahomes throws cutters

Holladay · 05-11-2018, 11:02 AM

That throw is amazing. I hadn't noticed it either.

I am still trying to get my head wrapped around it. I can't believe it. Is it the camera angle? Optical illusion? Or a straight up Jedi Mind Trick.

Dante84 · 05-11-2018, 11:14 AM

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Patrick Mahomes doesn't plan no-look passes. 'It kind of happens out of instinct'
BY PETE GRATHOFF
May 10, 2018 01:20 PM

Last month, the cast of "Good Morning Football" on the NFL Network was gushing about Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

Kay Adams, who leads the roundtable discussion, said she expected big things from Mahomes, who will be the starter in 2018. But the biggest Mahomes fan of the group is Peter Schrager, who shared a tidbit after talking with people at the NFL Combine.

"I'll tell you the story that I got in the Combine was that members of the Chiefs coaching staff and front office were showing grainy videos of their phone of Mahomes passes from practice, like showing other teams like, 'You have no idea. This is a Week 7 practice video...'" Schrager said.

Boy, that makes me wonder what Chiefs officials have on video. It's hard to imagine what could be better than the no-look pass Mahomes threw against the Broncos in last year's regular-season finale.

Mahomes talked about that pass against Denver in an interview with Sports Illustrated, and he said that he's been throwing no-look passes for years.

"I started throwing no-look passes as a joke with (fellow Red Raiders quarterback) Nic Shimonek," Mahomes told Sports Illustrated. "We did it in the practice drills with Coach (Kliff) Kingsbury and then I did it a couple of times in games. There was one time in the Broncos game where we did a little play-action, and I stepped up in the pocket and was getting ready to roll. A defender was kind of closing on me. I saw receiver Albert Wilson out of the corner of my eye, and I knew if I kept looking downfield, the defender would come off of his zone coverage enough for me to make the throw. So I looked him off and threw the ball to Albert, who grabbed it. It’s not like I mean to throw no-look passes. I think it kind of happens out of instinct. As I do it, I’m like, Dang, I didn’t even mean to do that."

Does that get you excited about the upcoming season? If not, then this comment from the Sports Illustrated story should.

Mahomes used the "D" word.

"(Running back) Kareem Hunt and I talk about building something together here," Mahomes said. "Seeing his success as a rookie and how hard he works, I’m excited to build a future with the Chiefs. With the young nucleus we have, I feel like we can have a great dynasty coming forward."

Yep, dynasty.

Kiimo · 05-11-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Holladay

That throw is amazing. I hadn't noticed it either.

I am still trying to get my head wrapped around it. I can't believe it. Is it the camera angle? Optical illusion? Or a straight up Jedi Mind Trick.

When it was first noticed some people said "momentum" but physics doesn't work like that. If that was in space it's a new vector in a new direction and it is a straight line. Then you wonder well is that an optical illusion? And then someone posted a bunch of similar videos from other quarterback and it definitely doesn't look like that.

He's straight up curving the ball into a more catchable area. Definitely not on purpose but it's happening anyway.

Maybe years of pitching developed habits that can create english from friction? I don't know but it's my everything. It's like watching Street Magic with Patrick Blaine.

ModSocks · 05-11-2018, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

When it was first noticed some people said "momentum" but physics doesn't work like that. If that was in space it's a new vector in a new direction and it is a straight line. Then you wonder well is that an optical illusion? And then someone posted a bunch of similar videos from other quarterback and it definitely doesn't look like that.

He's straight up curving the ball into a more catchable area. Definitely not on purpose but it's happening anyway.

Maybe years of pitching developed habits that can create english from friction? I don't know but it's my everything. It's like watching Street Magic with Patrick Blaine.

The only logical explanation is Jesus.

Jesus be like, "ahhpp, that's gonna get thrown behind and picked. Here, let me curve that for you".

Dante84 · 05-11-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

The only logical explanation is Jesus.

Jesus be like, "ahhpp, that's gonna get thrown behind and picked. Here, let me curve that for you".

05-06-2018, 11:34 AM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1721996 VARSITY	Patrick Mahomes and the Legend of the No-Look Pass First, some video examples of Mahomes no-look passes: Spoiler! Some of those no look passes @TerezPaylor wrote about. It’s Mahomes eve everyone https://t.co/VSf7qDNMlV — Cody Tapp (@codybtapp) December 31, 2017 You probably missed it yesterday, but Pat Mahomes tossed a no-look pass to keep the game alive vs. OSU last night 👀 #TexasTech pic.twitter.com/o1ADUHJM2g — Will McKay (@Will_R_McKay) November 14, 2016 Mahomes just hit em with the no look pass (wait for 2nd angle) pic.twitter.com/7lAc4Exhof — Kyle (@marblekyle) January 16, 2017 Ehinger gets help early from Schwartz here, does a good job afterward with hand placement and a wide base. He's got good feet. Of course, the real reason I'm showing this is to watch the Mahomes no-look pass and superb block by Chesson one more time. But you knew that already. pic.twitter.com/pZOOWKCHod — Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) April 3, 2018 Next, some articles: Spoiler! Patrick Mahomes New Trick Play is a Head Turner Mahomes No-Look Passes at Practice Turning Heads How Patrick Mahomes impressed the Chiefs 1st-team Defense A few thoughts and questions: - In the heat of the game, if performed correctly, this is almost an impossible play to defend. You essentially have to hope that the intended receiver as equally surprised as everyone else that the ball is being delivered, and hope for a drop/miss/tipped ball. - Instead of just capitalizing on this trait/skill-set when a play breaks down, how can Reid/Bienemy/Mahomes craft plays for this purpose? Is it possible that they design a package of plays with this in mind? - It seems to require a rollout, or a step up in the pocket, to get defenders to pull themselves out of position and commit to option A, when Mahomes throws back to Option B. Perhaps not, though? - Lastly, if you're up for the task, I'd love to hear (or see - ms paint?) your ideas for what the designed "No-Look" plays would look like.
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