Chiefs announce news conference on planned Arrowhead renovations

[srvy]

https://fox4kc.com/sports/chiefs/chi...mo-link-block1

Maybe worth checking out Wednesday morning. If your not local I'd assume Chiefs.com will have it on the website.

This will have major implications for the April vote on extending the sales tax that will help fund Renovations at One Arrowhead Drive and even more to get Shyster Sherman his downtown ballpark.

[Mecca]

I'm also not a fan of it because they're going to ask for a new stadium in 15-20 years so it makes no sense to not just build it now or ask for it now.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The parking deck is the one that caught my eye. I worked on a feasibility study once that involved rough budget estimates for building a parking garage, and the contractor's back-of-the-napkin estimate was around $30k per parking space to build a garage (and this was 5+ years ago). It's nuts how much money those things cost.

To build an asphalt road, it's a million dollars per mile.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm also not a fan of it because they're going to ask for a new stadium in 15-20 years so it makes no sense to not just build it now or ask for it now.

I'm guessing they don't want to build a new stadium where the current one is, so this is either a way to just get by or it's a way to force the move now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'm guessing they don't want to build a new stadium where the current one is, so this is either a way to just get by or it's a way to force the move now.

Why don't they just say that?

Cause they want to be in JoCo?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Why don't they just say that?

Cause they want to be in JoCo?

Just guessing here.... they don't want it to look like they abandoned Arrowhead; they want it to look like they were left with no choice but to move on.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Just guessing here.... they don't want it to look like they abandoned Arrowhead; they want it to look like they were left with no choice but to move on.

It's old as hell, anyone with any common sense should realize where it's going.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I mean that is a fair point considering almost all of the reno plans have to do with making the game experience better for rich people.



My favorite is how part of the plan is to expand the gigantic parking lot instead of putting some other things around the stadium.

What other things do you think will work around the TSC? Some 50 odd years tells us it works football baseball and select concerts and monster truck events. It gets large amounts of people ln parked and out. That is it it is within 10 miles of the plaza and downtown kc. If you don't like to drive 10 miles well don't go. People at least for the chiefs are not choosing the don't go option. This plan has options for folks to lift and Uber with public transportation options where at best there have been none that were easy and doable. Maybe they could provide electric scooter racks and rent those scooters to folks who don't automobile. They can get to there precious downtown by using them scooters on those empty bicycle lanes.


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[-King-]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well...yeah.

Vote no, let them leave

1. I've been to games so there's your response to that. Not a season ticket holder or anything but I generally go to at least one game a year, sometimes two or 3.

2. I have no problem with the extended tax but I expected more exciting stuff. Not general improvements that they would have made anyways or shit like expanded parking lots that face a different direction!

3. I'll never be in a suite or be in the VIP thing in the end zone because 1. I can't afford a suite, and 2. The endzone area has the worst viewing angle of any place in the stadium. Those things are targeted for people with money who don't give a shit about the actual game and just want to be somewhere trendy they can party.

I don't know why wanting and expecting more for $800mil ($500 of which is coming from us) is such a bad thing to you

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'm guessing they don't want to build a new stadium where the current one is, so this is either a way to just get by or it's a way to force the move now.

So are they counting on the proposal being voted down?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by -King-

So are they counting on the proposal being voted down?

It was very very underwhelming.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by -King-

1. I've been to games so there's your response to that. Not a season ticket holder or anything but I generally go to at least one game a year, sometimes two or 3.

2. I have no problem with the extended tax but I expected more exciting stuff. Not general improvements that they would have made anyways or shit like expanded parking lots that face a different direction!

3. I'll never be in a suite or be in the VIP thing in the end zone because 1. I can't afford a suite, and 2. The endzone area has the worst viewing angle of any place in the stadium. Those things are targeted for people with money who don't give a shit about the actual game and just want to be somewhere trendy they can party.

I don't know why wanting and expecting more for $800mil ($500 of which is coming from us) is such a bad thing to you

They don't care what you do once you're there, they just want the $.

What would you like to see them specifically do that they aren't doing?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by -King-

So are they counting on the proposal being voted down?

I have no idea. Just spit balling. If it passes, they do minor improvements to get them through the next 10+ years; at which point they could build a new stadium. If it doesn't pass, they build the stadium somewhere else.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Then obviously the stadium shouldn't be there...

It's perfect there. It's people mover property and within 10 miles of that party palace known as downtown KCMo.

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[srvy]

Originally Posted by Pinchshot

That current scoreboard is pathetic. I think it's the same one since the 70's.

It was changed out the same year they announced GEHA field.

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[vonBobo]

Originally Posted by O.city

I've always read the benefits for the taxpayer are positive for the Chiefs to be there, but if not I may be way off here.

The owners should get to privatize profits and subsidize expenses, but I dont' get to make the decision on that.

Bad roads, bad schools, trash everywhere, homeless everywhere, abandoned houses, meth labs, stolen vehicles homicides... All things these tax revenues should be solving.

We were told the benefits of power and light when the taxpayers paid for it. So far that debt interest is still being paid for by the taxpayer and the entire project is still in the red.