Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 8

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

Direckshun · 11-03-2014, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I don't think our O will be able to grind out long drives in this one. The D will be on the field a lot and Pro Bowl Orton will strike with a vengeance.

lcarus · 11-03-2014, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Eh, Locker passed for more yards on us than Peyton, Rivers or Brady.

We're bound to give up 300 to someone. Orton is certainly capable.

That Tennessee game was an anomaly based on what's happened since. But I do agree that someone's gonna get us eventually. And Orton has played pretty well and certainly is capable of beating us. I just think it's pretty nutty to proclaim it as a certainty. Or even to proclaim that it's likely.

Exoter175 · 11-03-2014, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I think the Bills are a serious sleeper.

Their D + their OL + a veteran QB who isn't afraid to go after the big play....real AFC spoiler material.

I'm counting on Orton going after the big play, as is Sutton, the 11 guys on Defense, and half the AFC right now. 1 of 3 things is going to happen.

Berry Interception
Parker Interception
Abdullah Interception

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, a whole 100 yards?

How many times have you actually watched the Bills this season?

4 times now, and considering their injuries at RB this year, 100 yards a game average is pretty impressive considering the run defenses they have seen while QB situation has all but been in shambles.

Trust me, their run game is a lot better than they are getting credit for, do we not remember past games against the bills? In 2012 they ran for over 200 against us at Ralph Wilson.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Trust me, their run game is a lot better than they are getting credit for, do we not remember past games against the bills? In 2012 they ran for over 200 against us at Ralph Wilson.

Trust you?

ModSocks · 11-03-2014, 12:52 AM

The Bills are always tough. I always worry when they play the Bills.

Exoter175 · 11-03-2014, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Trust you?

You're almost as bad a troll as Sorter and Sauto, really.

Name a time where the Chiefs played the Bills in the last 10 years where the Bills in Ralph Wilson Stadium, had less than 100 yards. I don't know the numbers off hand, but that answer will either be Zero, or very little.

Chromatic · 11-03-2014, 12:55 AM

If anyone wants to watch what the Bills did to the Jets a week ago, check out the full game here.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODE0MTkxODk2.html

Orton and the Bills are good. They're a lot better than last year when they literally gave the game away on a 99 yard pick six.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

You're almost as bad a troll as Sorter and Sauto, really.

And you're almost as bad as Claynus. At least he doesn't boast about his "impressive" resume.

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Name a time where the Chiefs played the Bills in the last 10 years where the Bills in Ralph Wilson Stadium, had less than 100 yards. I don't know the numbers off hand, but that answer will either be Zero, or very little.

And why don't you go ahead, in your utmost detail, tell us why that matters in 2014 when both teams have had more than 30% turnover from the previous year?

Exoter175 · 11-03-2014, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And you're almost as bad as Claynus. At least he doesn't boast about his "impressive" resume.

And why don't you go ahead, in your utmost detail, tell us why that matters in 2014 when both teams have had more than 30% turnover from the previous year?

Which part do you want the detail on? Why you don't want to get ran on for 200+ on a road game, why the Bills have a highly underrated Running Game, or why the Chiefs have probably never gone to Ralph Wilson in the last 10 years without having 100+ put on them?

I mean, get specific, I don't want Sorter coming in here and confusing everything I say, to somehow turn out that I've made a statement saying that the Chiefs will kneel the ball 46 times in this game, netting a -2 avg per attempt, against the 4-6 defense which clearly means that all defenders must be 4 1/2 feet tall, to better run under the opposing teams offensive linemen for a greater TFL percentage.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Which part do you want the detail on? Why you don't want to get ran on for 200+ on a road game, why the Bills have a highly underrated Running Game, or why the Chiefs have probably never gone to Ralph Wilson in the last 10 years without having 100+ put on them?

I mean, get specific, I don't want Sorter coming in here and confusing everything I say, to somehow turn out that I've made a statement saying that the Chiefs will kneel the ball 46 times in this game, netting a -2 avg per attempt, against the 4-6 defense which clearly means that all defenders must be 4 1/2 feet tall, to better run under the opposing teams offensive linemen for a greater TFL percentage.

Only a fool would argue with Sully, let alone Sorter.

Fritz88 · 11-03-2014, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

The only thing that worries me this weekend is buffalo has been bad for us. But we won last year. We should do it again.

We barely won
Posted via Mobile Device

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

We barely won
Posted via Mobile Device

A win's a win. I don't care if they win by a point, just as long as they win.

Exoter175 · 11-03-2014, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Only a fool would argue with Sully, let alone Sorter.

Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?

Goodnight kids! I'm looking forward to my ban and/or mass trolls tomorrow, stay classy!

**RealSNR** · 11-03-2014, 01:56 AM

The only shot the Bills have at killing our pass rush is if OJ Simpson shows up at the game

jonzie04 · 11-03-2014, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The only shot the Bills have at killing our pass rush is if OJ Simpson shows up at the game

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4203447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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