Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 20

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Actually, that one scares me. Reid has an unusual affection for Barkley.

What the hell, I should stand by my word.

Okay Pawnmower. I will make the bet with you. I bet the Chiefs do not take a QB with the OVERALL #1 pick in the 2013 draft. If they do I will gladly send you a check for the chess club. If they don't, you send me a check for Eddie's charity. Deal?

KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Heh..I didnt really care win or lose, maybe ill just send something to kennison's foundation......

good idea on the bets though! fun & helpful

I agree. It beats name calling and constant foundering behind a keyboard. Let's make a real impact instead.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-05-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

What the hell, I should stand by my word.

Okay Pawnmower. I will make the bet with you. I bet the Chiefs do not take a QB with the OVERALL #1 pick in the 2013 draft. If they do I will gladly send you a check for the chess club. If they don't, you send me a check for Eddie's charity. Deal?

sure man! sounds like a win/win to me...! I will match your 50$ also, if I win and send a 50$ check with yours ...in addition to the normal donation i give

**TribalElder** · 03-05-2013, 06:17 PM

I like money
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KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

He wins games in the postseason including quite a few on the road, so yeah I think that makes him worth a huge chunk of change. They contend every year and make noise in the postseason. What more do you want?

Okay, you believe he is worth 1/6th the total cap for a 53 man roster. I don't.

We will see how they do next season.

KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

sure man! sounds like a win/win to me...! I will match your 50$ also, if I win and send a 50$ check with yours ...in addition to the normal donation i give

Damn, I can't let you get the better of me. The same goes here. In fact, I see Eddie about once a month. I will get a pick of me handing him our checks and I will have him sign it for you.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 06:19 PM

You either have a QB or you don't, so yeah it's worth spending that much.

They have one (Super Bowl Champs contend every year)
We don't (2-14 with 8 probowl caliber position guys/ no playoff wins in several decades)

HotCarl · 03-05-2013, 06:20 PM

Welp I guess we'd better draft Barkley 1 and trade 3-7 for another one.

KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

You either have a QB or you don't, so yeah it's worth spending that much.

They have one (Super Bowl Champs contend every year)
We don't (2-14 with 8 probowl caliber position guys/ no playoff wins in several decades)

They never spent 20 mil on one player before this year. Let's see how it plays out before you label it a success.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-05-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Damn, I can't let you get the better of me. The same goes here. In fact, I see Eddie about once a month. I will get a pick of me handing him our checks and I will have him sign it for you.

holy shit that would be sick! that would probably be more amazing than to me getting a picture with International Master John Donaldson would be for you ....LOL

so yah you got me

(although Donaldson is another one of my heroes!)

KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

holy shit that would be sick! that would probably be more amazing than to me getting a picture with International Master John Donaldson would be for you ....LOL

so yah you got me

(although Donaldson is another one of my heroes!)

Now, if I lose, I demand an autographed pick of Mr. Donaldson. God knows it will be worth a fortune if he ever plays the MIT Greenblatt.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 06:24 PM

Thanks for the discussion Wolfman. Good to see ya back.

KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Thanks for the discussion Wolfman. Good to see ya back.

You as well.

**SAUTO** · 03-05-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

So you are saying we spent a second round and more for a backup QB?

Should be easy money for you then. Take the bet against me, name your charity and make them 50 bucks.

When you lose I need a check mailed to me completed for the Eddie Kennison Lupus Foundation. I will supply my address to you privately if you take the bet.

I think sometime in those two years he will be a backup. Yes.

Ill take your bet. Are you going to keep track and remind me just prior to the draft? Because there is no way I will remember. Lol

Let me figure out who you will pay
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KCWolfman · 03-05-2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I think sometime in those two years he will be a backup. Yes.

Ill take your bet. Are you going to keep track and remind me just prior to the draft? Because there is no way I will remember. Lol

Let me figure out who you will pay
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Yup, I have two takers now. Only one slot to fill.

03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1521925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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