Football NFL considers banning academically ineligible players from Scouting Combine - Page 2

Stinger · 07-07-2013, 01:14 PM

Per PFT....

In response to the criticism arising from the Aaron Hernandez case, the NFL is considering a change that, in our view, ultimately will have no impact on the decision of teams to take chances on players with questionable backgrounds.

According to Bruce Feldman of CBSSports.com, the NFL is considering barring academically ineligible prospects from the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

Feldman, citing an unnamed NFL source, reports that the possibility is “being discussed because of the increased scrutiny on the maturity and commitment of the prospects entering the NFL.”

By excluding the players deemed most likely to be drafted from Indianapolis, the NFL would only be making the scouting process more cumbersome and expensive for its teams. The primary benefit of the Scouting Combine comes from bringing all of the top prospects and all of the teams to the same place, reducing significantly the costs of the medical review and creating an opportunity to talk to as many players as possible, either via the normal interview rotation or the loosely-organized (and lesser-known) “train station” conversations, which in theory allows a sufficiently diligent team to register face time with every player.

Besides, academically ineligible players would still be drafted, whether they go to the Scouting Combine or not.

So while it’s good that the NFL is considering ways to prevent future Aaron Hernandezes from being employed by NFL teams when they allegedly commit murder or other mayhem, banning academically ineligible players from the Scouting Combine won’t do anything to accomplish the goal.

Unless the goal is to generate some P.R. that will make the casual fan think the NFL is serious about the problem. If the NFL really is serious about the problem, however, this isn’t the way to solve it.

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mcaj22 · 07-07-2013, 06:40 PM

didnt we just have 4 years of the "Scooter Pioli Right 53 plan where he tried to draft players that were "leaders" and captains of their team"

how did that work out. One guy committed a murder-suicide and the others are either already traded, cut, not resigned or will be struggling to make the team after TC.

That didnt work for this team the last 4 years, and I think a lot of teams noticed, especially the ones that go after the bad characters good athletic talent for that high risk high reward.

Setsuna · 07-07-2013, 06:51 PM

I have a question...are student athletes required to take finance classes in college or seminars as well as even criminal justice classes? If not, they should.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

I have a question...are student athletes required to take finance classes in college or seminars as well as even criminal justice classes? If not, they should.

Because less than 300 students per 450,000 actually end up in the pros each year and most of those never last a year.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

That'll solve murders!

Nope but it might keep the shield from being tarnished as much.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Nope but it might keep the shield from being tarnished as much.

How so? They'd still be scouted and drafted.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:30 PM

If the League truly wanted to stop it they would punish the teams for player conduct when said player has a history and teams choose to hire and play them then those teams could be fined or punished in some way for employing those types of people.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How so? They'd still be scouted and drafted.

Some but not as many would be scouted and drafted. Plus it would give a public appearance that the NFL is taking a stand against these types of activities and or the people that cause them.

tk13 · 07-07-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

didnt we just have 4 years of the "Scooter Pioli Right 53 plan where he tried to draft players that were "leaders" and captains of their team"

how did that work out. One guy committed a murder-suicide and the others are either already traded, cut, not resigned or will be struggling to make the team after TC.

That didnt work for this team the last 4 years, and I think a lot of teams noticed, especially the ones that go after the bad characters good athletic talent for that high risk high reward.

Nobody ever agrees with me... but the right 53 was never about finding role models. It isn't in New England either. Look at Vrabel, Belcher, Hernandez... we could go on and on in both KC and NE. It was about finding guys that actually liked playing football and would fall in line and listen to the coaches. It was more militant than moral. But I agree that's not how it'll be remembered.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

If the League truly wanted to stop it they would punish the teams for player conduct when said player has a history and teams choose to hire and play them then those teams could be fined or punished in some way for employing those types of people.

Good God. Stop what?

And you DO realize that the LEAGUE is the NFL owners themselves, right?

Goodell and the NFL office personnel are are hired and fired by the owners.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Some but not as many would be scouted and drafted. Plus it would give a public appearance that the NFL is taking a stand against these types of activities and or the people that cause them.

Complete bullshit.

Vontaze Burfict is the perfect example.

Do you always talk out of your ass or just on Chiefsplanet?

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good God. Stop what?

And you DO realize that the LEAGUE is the NFL owners themselves, right?

Goodell and the NFL office personnel are are hired and fired by the owners.

Stop What?? You paying attention?? Stop the constant negative publicity of murderers, gun arrests, drug and alcohol arrests, DWI convictions, etc.
Those are all recent player activities that tarnishes the NFL.
Yeah I realize that. You realize that the owners can use the commissioner to make the NFL seem like a separate entity. You do realize that the owners have to vote. It isn't as if one owner can just make anything happen. It takes a committee of owners.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Stop What?? You paying attention?? Stop the constant negative publicity of murderers, gun arrests, drug and alcohol arrests, DWI convictions, etc.
Those are all recent player activities that tarnishes the NFL.
Yeah I realize that. You realize that the owners can use the commissioner to make the NFL seem like a separate entity. You do realize that the owners have to vote. It isn't as if one owner can just make anything happen. It takes a committee of owners.

The NFL is so full of murderers that taking a kid to a game is likely to end in death.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Complete bullshit.

Vontaze Burfict is the perfect example.

Do you always talk out of your ass or just on Chiefsplanet?

Who is talking out their ass again? Burfict went undrafted even if he was scouted he went undrafted.
He could have been drafted fairly early in the middle rounds.
We don't know for sure that he will not do something stupid to tarnish the NFL.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The NFL is so full of murderers that taking a kid to a game is likely to end in death.

I see you still go to over reaction when you are wrong. Nice cherry picking only one thing out of all those that I posted that put the NFL in a negative spotlight instead of realizing those are all things that players have been punished for tarnishing the shield by their behavior.

Setsuna · 07-07-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because less than 300 students per 450,000 actually end up in the pros each year and most of those never last a year.

Well true but they still have the potential to be successful. If you had taken a finance class in college, do you think you'd be better off right now or not?

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