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**KcMizzou** · 07-08-2010, 08:18 PM

Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)

**alnorth** · 02-03-2015, 08:41 PM

If anyone's wondering, Diaz's test was an in-competition test from right after the fight, so unlike Jones, he'll be suspended.

**alnorth** · 02-03-2015, 08:42 PM

Silva's gonna be like "yeah, I snapped my leg, had to do it. Sorry, I'm done now."

**alnorth** · 02-03-2015, 08:49 PM

The fight result is probably going to be changed to a no-contest

raybec 4 · 02-04-2015, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

Diaz gives no ****s. He'll take his year suspension from the Nevada Athletic Commission and fight again next year.

He wasn't going to fight again this year anyway. He'll lay back and chill and do the same shit next year.

**alnorth** · 02-04-2015, 04:42 PM

Well, now we know why the test took so long. For this special random out of competition test, Nevada used one of the best labs in the world, the same WADA lab in Utah that the USOC uses, but that lab is also very popular due to their reputation. They handle 30,000 tests a year and they do not prioritize, at all.

Not only do they not prioritize, they do not even want to know who the sample is for (other than the data entry guy whose job it is to transform the identity of the sample to a code number before handing it off to the tester, and then later to decode the code number back to the identity to mail off the results), and the fact that millions of dollars potentially rides on the outcome if it comes back earlier doesn't matter to them. This world-class WADA lab takes a few weeks, and if thats too long for you, use a different lab.

Its possible that Nevada and the UFC knew this lab takes a while, and thats why they used it just in case it turned up a bad result.

**alnorth** · 02-04-2015, 06:50 PM

Diaz tested at 300 ng/mL, which is double the NV limit of 150 ng/mL

I had no idea what those numbers really mean, but after some research, it looks like the 150 standard that WADA and Nevada use is very reasonable if (as they have stated) they don't really care about long-term MJ use and only want to keep the fighters from using shortly before the fight. Extremely heavy users might have to quit a couple months to get under that level, and occasional recreational users should have no problem getting under 150 with just taking a week or so off.

So, by testing at 300, Nick Diaz either smokes like a chimney and couldn't get under 150 despite an attempt to do so, or he doesn't give a damn about failing and was planning to be suspended all along.

By comparison, the 15 ng/mL standard that Texas uses (which Jessica Eye was busted for) is ridiculously low unless what you really want is to make sure fighters never smoke at all. 15 is what employers often use.

**TimBone** · 02-04-2015, 06:55 PM

I give zero ****s about a positive marijuana test.

**Easy 6** · 02-04-2015, 06:56 PM

UFC is falling apart, but hey... atleast they have chick fights.

**alnorth** · 02-04-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

UFC is falling apart, but hey... atleast they have chick fights.

182 had 800,000 buys.

**Bufkin** · 02-04-2015, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

UFC is falling apart, but hey... atleast they have chick fights.

In what way is it falling apart? The past 6 months have been unbelievable in terms of Pay-Per-View quality, as well as free cards. The UFC on Fox shows have delivered immensely, which brings a lot of primetime viewers in.

**Easy 6** · 02-04-2015, 07:48 PM

Guys are getting popped for roids left and right these days.

**alnorth** · 02-04-2015, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Guys are getting popped for roids left and right these days.

Not guys, "guy", and that guy is just about retired.

As for that whole "chick fights" comment, the Tate-McMann fight last week had nearly 2MM viewers for that half hour block, which is the highest rating ever for a FS1 prelim. The last time Rousey headlined a PPV that had not much else on the card, it brought in 350,000 buys which is not bad at all.

BigCatDaddy · 02-04-2015, 09:20 PM

There have been. few others. Sonnen and Belfort to name a few but its hardly hurting the sport.

KC native · 02-04-2015, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Diaz tested at 300 ng/mL, which is double the NV limit of 150 ng/mL

I had no idea what those numbers really mean, but after some research, it looks like the 150 standard that WADA and Nevada use is very reasonable if (as they have stated) they don't really care about long-term MJ use and only want to keep the fighters from using shortly before the fight. Extremely heavy users might have to quit a couple months to get under that level, and occasional recreational users should have no problem getting under 150 with just taking a week or so off.

So, by testing at 300, Nick Diaz either smokes like a chimney and couldn't get under 150 despite an attempt to do so, or he doesn't give a damn about failing and was planning to be suspended all along.

By comparison, the 15 ng/mL standard that Texas uses (which Jessica Eye was busted for) is ridiculously low unless what you really want is to make sure fighters never smoke at all. 15 is what employers often use.

I bet he didn't even try to stop smoking. I doubt he would smoke beforehand as it would slow you down, but I guarantee you he was smoking right after.

I know he's talked shit about testing for weed in the past so maybe this is his way of protesting.

KC native · 02-04-2015, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

There have been. few others. Sonnen and Belfort to name a few but its hardly hurting the sport.

Yes, it's the guys trying to hang on into their late 30's are usually the ones getting popped.

07-08-2010, 08:18 PM
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02-03-2015, 08:41 PM	#4006
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	If anyone's wondering, Diaz's test was an in-competition test from right after the fight, so unlike Jones, he'll be suspended. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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02-03-2015, 08:42 PM	#4007
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Silva's gonna be like "yeah, I snapped my leg, had to do it. Sorry, I'm done now." __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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02-03-2015, 08:49 PM	#4008
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	The fight result is probably going to be changed to a no-contest __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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02-04-2015, 04:42 PM	#4010
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Well, now we know why the test took so long. For this special random out of competition test, Nevada used one of the best labs in the world, the same WADA lab in Utah that the USOC uses, but that lab is also very popular due to their reputation. They handle 30,000 tests a year and they do not prioritize, at all. Not only do they not prioritize, they do not even want to know who the sample is for (other than the data entry guy whose job it is to transform the identity of the sample to a code number before handing it off to the tester, and then later to decode the code number back to the identity to mail off the results), and the fact that millions of dollars potentially rides on the outcome if it comes back earlier doesn't matter to them. This world-class WADA lab takes a few weeks, and if thats too long for you, use a different lab. Its possible that Nevada and the UFC knew this lab takes a while, and thats why they used it just in case it turned up a bad result. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
Posts: 36,130

02-04-2015, 06:50 PM	#4011
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Diaz tested at 300 ng/mL, which is double the NV limit of 150 ng/mL I had no idea what those numbers really mean, but after some research, it looks like the 150 standard that WADA and Nevada use is very reasonable if (as they have stated) they don't really care about long-term MJ use and only want to keep the fighters from using shortly before the fight. Extremely heavy users might have to quit a couple months to get under that level, and occasional recreational users should have no problem getting under 150 with just taking a week or so off. So, by testing at 300, Nick Diaz either smokes like a chimney and couldn't get under 150 despite an attempt to do so, or he doesn't give a damn about failing and was planning to be suspended all along. By comparison, the 15 ng/mL standard that Texas uses (which Jessica Eye was busted for) is ridiculously low unless what you really want is to make sure fighters never smoke at all. 15 is what employers often use. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
Posts: 36,130

02-04-2015, 06:55 PM	#4012
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02-04-2015, 06:56 PM	#4013
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3547775	UFC is falling apart, but hey... atleast they have chick fights.
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02-04-2015, 07:48 PM	#4016
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3547775	Guys are getting popped for roids left and right these days.
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02-04-2015, 09:20 PM	#4018
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $1839122	There have been. few others. Sonnen and Belfort to name a few but its hardly hurting the sport.
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