2018 Free Agents

[Couch-Potato]

Who are you letting walk/cutting/retiring?

http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018/...8-free-agents/


Who are you targeting?

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-tracker?pg=1

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

While Fuller isn’t as good as Peters, KC will get better consistency and not have to worry about him losing his shit at any critical moment of a game. Turnovers will not be as much but Fuller can take the ball away still. And ya Amerson is far superior than Gaines or Mitchell

One major reason our zone defense was so good in 2015 and 2016 was Berry and Peters. it’s also why we killed NE in the 2nd half.

3-8 scheme has 8 defenders vs 5 (at most) receivers. Berry can take away the TE singlehandedly which means it’s 7-4, but Peters was so good that teams wouldn’t throw at him.

With Berry and Peters, zone coverage was basically like playing 6v3. It’s a lot easier when you have those circumstances. It’s even easier when 1 of those 5 receivers is a RB coming out of the backfield.

Losing Peters sucks and now we need to find a DB who is excellent in zone and can take the ball away.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not only holes, it's depth as well.

The Chiefs secondary is razor thin. They need at least 2 more CB's and 2 more safeties, not to mention depth on the defensive line.

O City has mentioned it many times but it's a ****ing travesty that Eric Reid isn't signed to any team.

He'd be the absolutely perfect safety next to Berry and would be a great signing for the Chiefs.

Yeah I think he would be

Sadly it looks like other issues happening

[Bewbies]

**** zone. Let’s get back to man press and force our will on the offense.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by RunKC

One major reason our zone defense was so good in 2015 and 2016 was Berry and Peters. it’s also why we killed NE in the 2nd half.

3-8 scheme has 8 defenders vs 5 (at most) receivers. Berry can take away the TE singlehandedly which means it’s 7-4, but Peters was so good that teams wouldn’t throw at him.

With Berry and Peters, zone coverage was basically like playing 6v3. It’s a lot easier when you have those circumstances. It’s even easier when 1 of those 5 receivers is a RB coming out of the backfield.

Losing Peters sucks and now we need to find a DB who is excellent in zone and can take the ball away.

They’re going to more press and man. Which I’m fine with as long as we have good safety play

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not only holes, it's depth as well.

The Chiefs secondary is razor thin. They need at least 2 more CB's and 2 more safeties, not to mention depth on the defensive line.

O City has mentioned it many times but it's a ****ing travesty that Eric Reid isn't signed to any team.

He'd be the absolutely perfect safety next to Berry and would be a great signing for the Chiefs.

Fair calls. I just think its hard to address holes + depth in one off-season. Rams have depth issues too imo. Just have enough talent to cover for it. Not to mention how deep their secondary is.

Id love Reid, he must seriously rub some people the wrong way - cause he can play. Id really like a safety plus a dline passrusher, just dont know if its in their plans sadly.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Great info in this link!



No it does not.
According to the link that ChiefsandO'sfan provided to OTC.
They show you two ways to figure the rookie pool.
One is that you can use ($480,000 x number of picks) = 3,840,000
You can do the math the long way and add up the value of each pick but you don't come up with the same number that OTC shows. Which is as follows
2cd - $901,468
3rd - $731,334 from the Skins
3rd - $690,095
4th - $640,687
4th - $638,761 from the Rams
6th - $518,622
7th - $499,228
7th - $497,345
Total $5,117,540

Either way we are still at $5.1 rookie pool that has to be held for the Salary Cap.

But, then you take the 8 salaries off the books that those guys replace. So no we don't need 5 million for that.

[Chargem]

I wanted a starting safety drafted high initially, but considering that safeties seem cheap in FA I’m starting to rethink.

Also, even if the rookies don’t affect the cap, they will probably carry a few million into the season in case injuries force them to make a mid season signing, so they probably are quite close to done depending on the Williams cap hit...

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

**** zone. Let’s get back to man press and force our will on the offense.

Let's get back to a Justin Houston with 22 sacks!!!

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

But, then you take the 8 salaries off the books that those guys replace. So no we don't need 5 million for that.

That is true, but there may be a cap penalty for some of those 8 guys cut for the draft picks. Really hard to say at this point.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

But, then you take the 8 salaries off the books that those guys replace. So no we don't need 5 million for that.

It’s clearly evident that you, Strongside and others have absolutely no clue as to now the salary cap works, especially the Rookie Salary cap.

[aturnis]

So. Luke Joekel is available. Not a great guard, but has been good in Seattle, only struggling from time to time really with elite defenders. Would be an upgrade for us and could be a cheap 1-2 year option.

Any better options expected to be released post draft, or camp casualty? Are there starting caliber guards available in rounds 4-7?

[slapnutz_4]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It’s clearly evident that you, Strongside and others have absolutely no clue as to now the salary cap works, especially the Rookie Salary cap.

https://overthecap.com/explaining-th...ie-salary-cap/

Actually what he is saying is exactly how I read it

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by slapnutz_4

https://overthecap.com/explaining-th...ie-salary-cap/

Actually what he is saying is exactly how I read it

And apparently, you didn't read the very first comment:

Pretty poor article to be honest. It's stating the obvious and yet acts like it's really teaching something. It's also misleading. Your effective cap hit numbers are against a 51-man salary cap, not a 53-man salary cap. You also don't account for dead space due to guaranteed money when a player gets cut. I mean, honestly, who doesn't realize the concept that signing a Draft class means that they are beating out other players on the roster?

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If signing rookies was irrelevant to the Cap because 8-10 players would drop off the roster, why did the Chiefs need to cut Jeremy Maclin last year in order to create $10 million dollars in order to sign all of their rookies?

Again, there is some serious misunderstanding of the Rookie Salary Pool in this forum.

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by aturnis

So. Luke Joekel is available. Not a great guard, but has been good in Seattle, only struggling from time to time really with elite defenders. Would be an upgrade for us and could be a cheap 1-2 year option.

Any better options expected to be released post draft, or camp casualty? Are there starting caliber guards available in rounds 4-7?

I really don't think Veach is going to sign a FA offensive lineman, unless after the draft if he doesn't draft one.

IMO, the Chiefs need to draft ideally a versatile LG as they did not draft any OL last year, have already three big contracts on the OL and Morse is a year away from free agency.

[Chargem]

Is there any indication that the chiefs think they need a new left guard? I haven’t seen any rumors about talks with anyone, would be surprised if they did anything more than a depth signing or a draft pick based on that.