Football Cam Newton gets 5 year $103M deal - Page 6

Chief Roundup · 06-02-2015, 06:14 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n=facebook_atn

$67.6 M in the first 3 years is the most ever.

Demonpenz · 06-03-2015, 10:06 AM

Quarterbacks deflate the ball

Eleazar · 06-03-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Tds are tds, right?

Sure, but you shouldn't use a rushing touchdown to say a guy compares to the greatest passers of all time.

Chief Roundup · 06-03-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Throwing the ball:
Dan Marino 144 TDs
Peyton Manning 118 TDs
Cam Newton 82 TDs

Quarterbacks throw the ball.

Steve Young and many others want to say Hi.

**The Franchise** · 06-03-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Throwing the ball:
Dan Marino 144 TDs
Peyton Manning 118 TDs
Cam Newton 82 TDs

Quarterbacks throw the ball.

So I guess Randall Cunnigham wasn't a QB?

Demonpenz · 06-03-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So I guess Randall Cunnigham wasn't a QB?

Mods please edit to read QB EAGLES

**BossChief** · 06-03-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Throwing the ball:
Dan Marino 144 TDs
Peyton Manning 118 TDs
Cam Newton 82 TDs

Quarterbacks throw the ball.

Dumb

Quarterbacks orchestrate the offense.

No way should you downgrade Cam based on how he scored for his team.

Demonpenz · 06-03-2015, 10:13 AM

Alright guys hide your cell phones. Here comes boss chief to make sure we are chiefsplaneting correctly.

Eleazar · 06-03-2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So I guess Randall Cunnigham wasn't a QB?

He played the QB position, but he should not be mentioned among the greatest passers of all time, which is what the post I quoted was trying to say about Newton.

**The Franchise** · 06-03-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

He played the QB position, but he should not be mentioned among the greatest passers of all time, which is what the post I quoted was trying to say about Newton.

Steve Young?
John Elway?

Eleazar · 06-03-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Steve Young?
John Elway?

Has Cam Newton won some playoff games that I'm not aware of?

(No, he has a losing record as a QB in both the regular and postseason.)

Eleazar · 06-03-2015, 10:29 AM

The Carolina Panthers grossly overpaid Cam Newton

But, with a few exceptions, most NFL quarterbacks are grossly overpaid.

By CHRIS CHASE 18 hours ago FOLLOW @CHAZTOPHER

Here’s the problem with the NFL salary structure, one so heavily tilted in favor of ownership that it’s practically criminal for the NFLPA to continually agree to it: Either you get rid of your biggest star or you overpay your biggest star. There’s no in between.

The Carolina Panthers found that out Tuesday, when it gave Cam Newton, a fine quarterback and double-threat with his legs, who has a career record below .500 and two playoff appearances largely due to his team’s stout defense, a contract worth $67.6 million over the first three guaranteed years. In total, the contract is a $103.8 million deal factoring in the funny money, which is not accidentally worth $250,000 more than the contract signed by Matt Ryan. (The ego of agents and athletes never fails to bring a smile.)

That should be too much money for a quarterback who’s had a single season above .500, has an awful touchdown-to-interception ratio of 1.5 (last year, he ranked 27th in the NFL in the stat, behind EJ Manuel, Derek Carr and, remarkably, Eli Manning), captains an offense that’s been progressively worse in each of his four years in the league, had his worst season in 2014 and has been most comparable over the past three years to Ken O’Brien’s 1985-87 stretch, according to Football Outsiders.

There’s a reason Newton’s numbers dipped last year, in addition to battling injuries: He lost his receiving security blanket in Steve Smith. A football team is only as good as the sum of its part and, on offense at least, it’s Cam Newton and that’s about it for Carolina, unless you believe Jerricho Cotchery is due for a career year at age 33. Kelvin Benjamin, last year’s first-round pick, is a standout at wideout, but without anyone else to take the attention away from defenses (hint: It won’t be Ted Ginn), his abilities will be hampered. And let’s not forget that Newton’s blind side will be protected in 2015 by Blind Side subject Michael Oher, who was cut from the Tennessee Titans earlier this year because he failed his exit physical. The lack of moves aren’t Newton’s fault, but, as Seattle is about to find out, the salary cap means there’s only so much money for so many players.

But such is life in the NFL, where quarterbacks rule and getting your hands on a decent one, however shaky his overall talents may be, is one less headache for a general manager. The reason Newton is worth $67.6 million is because Geno Smith, Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr, Sam Bradford, Jay Cutler and Nick Foles are all expected to be starting quarterbacks this season. Get rid of him and the picks are slim. Newton’s worth is much like Joe Flacco’s, because for however “elite” Flacco may or may not be, at least he’s someone dependable who can occasionally win games and rarely lose them by himself.

There is a big difference, however: Flacco consistently takes his team to the playoffs and wins when he gets there. Newton’s Panthers had a great, flukey 12-4 record in 2012, then became just the second team with a record below .500 to make the playoffs last year when its 7-8-1 record took the putrid NFC South. But the division won’t be bad for long and it’s up for debate whether it’ll be Cam Newton who leads the charge. The Carolina Panthers, and $103.8 million, are counting on it.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/cam-...-how-much-long

**The Franchise** · 06-03-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Has Cam Newton won some playoff games that I'm not aware of?

(No, he has a losing record as a QB in both the regular and postseason.)

Keep moving those goalposts.

BigChiefFan · 06-03-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Tds are tds, right?

Can't be. Chiefs Planet told me only TDs count when a WR catches them.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-03-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Has Cam Newton won some playoff games that I'm not aware of?

(No, he has a losing record as a QB in both the regular and postseason.)

Some of you guys act there is a better alternative to guy like Cam Newton and Alex Smith. Hint: There isn't.

There are a dozen teams in the NFL with shit as starting QB's. Complete and utter shit. Some of the other teams have unproven guys like Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater. Sure, they show promise but how many QB's haven't taken a step backwards their sophomore seasons?

The bottom line is this: With a great supporting cast, guys like Smith and Newton and Dalton and Wilson and Flacco can win in the playoffs and can win a Super Bowl. But don't expect any of them to do it themselves like a John Elway, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre or even Ben Rothlisberger, because it's not going to happen.

Eleazar · 06-03-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Some of you guys act there is a better alternative to guy like Cam Newton and Alex Smith. Hint: There isn't.

There's not. That's why Newton is getting paid like he is... "because Geno Smith, Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr, Sam Bradford, Jay Cutler and Nick Foles are all expected to be starting quarterbacks this season."

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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	The Carolina Panthers grossly overpaid Cam Newton But, with a few exceptions, most NFL quarterbacks are grossly overpaid. By CHRIS CHASE 18 hours ago FOLLOW @CHAZTOPHER Here’s the problem with the NFL salary structure, one so heavily tilted in favor of ownership that it’s practically criminal for the NFLPA to continually agree to it: Either you get rid of your biggest star or you overpay your biggest star. There’s no in between. The Carolina Panthers found that out Tuesday, when it gave Cam Newton, a fine quarterback and double-threat with his legs, who has a career record below .500 and two playoff appearances largely due to his team’s stout defense, a contract worth $67.6 million over the first three guaranteed years. In total, the contract is a $103.8 million deal factoring in the funny money, which is not accidentally worth $250,000 more than the contract signed by Matt Ryan. (The ego of agents and athletes never fails to bring a smile.) That should be too much money for a quarterback who’s had a single season above .500, has an awful touchdown-to-interception ratio of 1.5 (last year, he ranked 27th in the NFL in the stat, behind EJ Manuel, Derek Carr and, remarkably, Eli Manning), captains an offense that’s been progressively worse in each of his four years in the league, had his worst season in 2014 and has been most comparable over the past three years to Ken O’Brien’s 1985-87 stretch, according to Football Outsiders. There’s a reason Newton’s numbers dipped last year, in addition to battling injuries: He lost his receiving security blanket in Steve Smith. A football team is only as good as the sum of its part and, on offense at least, it’s Cam Newton and that’s about it for Carolina, unless you believe Jerricho Cotchery is due for a career year at age 33. Kelvin Benjamin, last year’s first-round pick, is a standout at wideout, but without anyone else to take the attention away from defenses (hint: It won’t be Ted Ginn), his abilities will be hampered. And let’s not forget that Newton’s blind side will be protected in 2015 by Blind Side subject Michael Oher, who was cut from the Tennessee Titans earlier this year because he failed his exit physical. The lack of moves aren’t Newton’s fault, but, as Seattle is about to find out, the salary cap means there’s only so much money for so many players. But such is life in the NFL, where quarterbacks rule and getting your hands on a decent one, however shaky his overall talents may be, is one less headache for a general manager. The reason Newton is worth $67.6 million is because Geno Smith, Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr, Sam Bradford, Jay Cutler and Nick Foles are all expected to be starting quarterbacks this season. Get rid of him and the picks are slim. Newton’s worth is much like Joe Flacco’s, because for however “elite” Flacco may or may not be, at least he’s someone dependable who can occasionally win games and rarely lose them by himself. There is a big difference, however: Flacco consistently takes his team to the playoffs and wins when he gets there. Newton’s Panthers had a great, flukey 12-4 record in 2012, then became just the second team with a record below .500 to make the playoffs last year when its 7-8-1 record took the putrid NFC South. But the division won’t be bad for long and it’s up for debate whether it’ll be Cam Newton who leads the charge. The Carolina Panthers, and $103.8 million, are counting on it. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/cam-...-how-much-long
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