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Old 09-20-2018, 11:17 AM   Topic Starter
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We’ve got to get Eric Murray off the field


Everybody pretty much did their job here in the back end except Murray. This defense looks so much worse because of him. The guy just doesn’t have a good read on coverage.

It sucks that we are pressed to play him bc we are forced too due to Sorenson and Berry being hurt.

FWIW Armani Watts played 16 defensive snaps in the Steelers game as opposed to 3 in LA. I think he’s coming up to speed.

Only a matter of time until Murray is on the bench and we look better.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:18 AM   #2
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If he's playing the robber, that's on Nelson
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:19 AM   #3
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But...but...Eric Berry won't make any difference.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:20 AM   #4
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But...but...Eric Berry won't make any difference.
Where was this said?
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:30 AM   #5
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But...but...Eric Berry won't make any difference.
Actually he’s not. Didn’t last year. So far this year he is making zero difference.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:49 AM   #6
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Actually he’s not. Didn’t last year. So far this year he is making zero difference.
Assuming he comes back he's automatically better than Murray, which raises our floor, thus making us a better team
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:49 PM   #7
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But...but...Eric Berry won't make any difference.
Sure he will, for the one half he plays this year.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:20 AM   #8
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If he's playing the robber, that's on Nelson
Murray wasn't deep enough. He came up too far. Zones are designed like Venn diagrams. There shouldn't be that big of a gap behind him.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:27 AM   #9
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Murray wasn't deep enough. He came up too far. Zones are designed like Venn diagrams. There shouldn't be that big of a gap behind him.
Not necessarily.

If he's the robber, he's not having the deep middle.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:09 PM   #11
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We passed on Jessie Bates for Breeland Speaks
Justin Reid also....

Murray and Nelson was basically straight up man CBs and now we have Murray trying to play safety and he just looks lost doing it, and Nelson looks horrid in zone also...

This team is going to have to move on from so many guys because they frankly don't have dudes to do what needs to be done.

But really you can't tell me that Eric Murray is their best option out there, his football IQ sucks balls because he is never where he is supposed to be.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:53 PM   #12
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If he's playing the robber, that's on Nelson
It seems like Nelson also struggled with following his receiver rather than passing him off.

Bottom line - they looked like a team that hadn't ever practiced together, let alone played a game together. They have to dial way back on their number of zone calls because that secondary simply doesn't seem able to play it together.

I don't know if it's a Murray problem or a Nelson problem, but the both of those guys mixed together was sure as hell SOME kind of problem. And when you have ILB's that aren't comfortable getting the right depth on their drops as well...man, there's just open grass all over the place out there.

Gotta ride or die with man coverage and hope to generate some pressure right now, IMO.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:58 PM   #13
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It seems like Nelson also struggled with following his receiver rather than passing him off.

Bottom line - they looked like a team that hadn't ever practiced together, let alone played a game together. They have to dial way back on their number of zone calls because that secondary simply doesn't seem able to play it together.

I don't know if it's a Murray problem or a Nelson problem, but the both of those guys mixed together was sure as hell SOME kind of problem. And when you have ILB's that aren't comfortable getting the right depth on their drops as well...man, there's just open grass all over the place out there.

Gotta ride or die with man coverage and hope to generate some pressure right now, IMO.
Nelson certainly blew his assignment too. This is what happens when most teams' backups are your starters.
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Yeah he has really busted. This upcoming draft likely needs at least two secondary players in the first four picks.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:20 AM   #15
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Nelson carries his man to far inside.

If they're playing cover 3, that's on Nelson.
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