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Old 02-03-2016, 02:24 PM  
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Talks with Eric Berry for extension 'ramping up'


Per Ian Rapoport.

To the few out there who think we don't need this guy for a good price, happy to see that the front office is of course on the right side.
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:23 AM   #136
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His ability to come from the FS position and make these tackles near the LoS is 2nd to none. He has elite range and is one of the most sure tacklers in the NFL. He makes pinpoint accurate dives to tackle ball carriers with an aggressiveness that most DB's in the NFL don't match. Those extra yards pile up. You get 4th and 1's because of tackles like the ones Eric Berry makes. That's game changing.

Calling him a "very good tackler" is an understatement.

You're getting an All Pro FS. An All Pro SS. He's proven it on the field. Lets not act like this is his first year receiving accolades. The man has been ballin' since his rookie season.

6 Years. They usually have you figured out after 6 years in the NFL. Yet people can't stop raving about Eric Berry. You know why? Because he's that good.

He was a premiere box safety and some of you said, "Oh but you don't pay a box safety that much". Then he became an all pro FS and you're giving us the same BS line.

But you're right. In his 1.5 years of playing FS, he hasn't amassed as many interceptions as Earl Thomas has while playing FS his entire career. But that's ok, because if that's the one hole in his game, if we can call it that, then it still doesn't offset everything else that Eric Berry does so well.

He is a top 3 player at his position despite his lack of interceptions. Pay him top 3 money.


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Old 02-04-2016, 06:38 AM   #137
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:27 AM   #138
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Berry was tied for 4th among safeties in passes defensed. And I'm pretty sure that's actually 3rd BC they have Tyrann Mathieu listed as a S and I'm pretty sure he's a CB.

In fact, Berry had more passes defensed this year than Earl Thomas has ever had in a season.
Berry has actually had THREE seasons of 10 passes defensed and Earl Thomas has never even had 1.

Berry is better than Thomas and it's really not close. He's just as much of a ball hawk. He's far better than Thomas in the box.

The difference is that We play Ron Parker in the Earl Thomas so Single high position a lot of the time whereas Thomas plays that role 95% of the time.

And FFS please name all these safeties who are awesome at covering elite TE's bc the last I saw nobody was stopping Gronk or Gates.
Gronk stomped his foot all over Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas's faces in the SB. There is no such thing as a safety who can cover those guys every play.

Berry is essentially the same guy as Kam Chancellor in the box and he's basically the same guy as Earl Thomas playing deep.
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:40 AM   #139
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Do you realize what is beyond ****ing stupid?

People saying that Alex Smith isn't a Franchise QB.

He's led a team to a 32-19 record, without the services of JC during the 11 game win streak, without Eric Berry for 8 games or whatever last year, without Houston for 7 games in 2013 and Hali for several games in between, without DJ for nearly all of last season, without Avery, the #2 WR for most of 2014 and with a shit offensive line that's in constant need of upgrading.

Yet people have no problem advocating that the Chiefs make Eric Berry, a box safety with few other skills, the highest paid safety in the league while paying Alex Smith "Franchise" money. Not elite but "Franchise".

This is the dumbest fan base outside of the Jets.
Hilarious, defense has carried this team for 2 years

We should have been in the playoffs last year but Alex blew it multiple times

Smith was a flaming bust for 7 years, berry has been an all pro level safety since his first step on an nfl field...gee, wonder if he'll be even better with an off season not fighting cancer?

What's the safety equivalent of not throwing a TD pass for a season?

You ****ing idiots, all pro players get all pro money...and Clark will happily give it to him
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:41 AM   #140
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Eric berry....not good enough for chiefs fans


Eric fisher....omg! We love him!!
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:52 AM   #141
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Berry is a stud player and we should get him locked up. Thoughts on letting him roll out of here over a few dollars is insane. He is a great player, great leader and great community guy.

He should get 10 mil per year and he's worth it to us.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:06 AM   #142
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He is going to get a deal that's resonable for him and the team. I have zero doubts.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:08 AM   #143
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Berry needs to be a Chief for life. Make it happen Dorsey.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:15 AM   #144
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The Chiefs are a winning team without Eric Berry.

But Eric Berry's presence means little without Houston, Hali, Ford, Poe and now, Peters.

He is not and has never been a game changer.

We debated this topic all last season and I firmly believe that the Chiefs can replace Berry with a player that costs half as much and see little to no dropoff defensively.
On the field, they can probably replace Berry by re-signing Abdullah and Branch...but the presence of Eric Berry in the building is hard to put a price on.

The guy beat cancer and came right back to be a first team all pro and is an unquestioned leader.

If you were running the Chiefs, Eric Berry would be a Raider next year.
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On the field, they can probably replace Berry by re-signing Abdullah and Branch...but the presence of Eric Berry in the building is hard to put a price on.

The guy beat cancer and came right back to be a first team all pro and is an unquestioned leader.

If you were running the Chiefs, Eric Berry would be a Raider next year.
Normally, with business decisions in pro sports, you try to refrain from using sentiment whinin your line of thinking. That's what good GM's do. In this case, use the hell out of the emotional side. Eric Berry needs to stay.
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I'd also like to add that a HUGE reason this defense held it together down the stretch (after Houston and Hali got hurt) was Eric Berrys play in the secondary (along with a few other factors) as the year went on. The guy got better and better with every game...coming back from cancer, playing FS instead of in the box, etc.

This team needs to lock up Berry and I'm very excited to see his play going forward with a full offseason to prepare for his upcoming opponents.
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Eric fisher....omg! We love him!!
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I'm pretty sure that only Dane thinks this. I haven't heard of anyone who doesn't want Berry back even at a big deal.
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But Eric Berry isn't that important.

He can't hop into the slot, he can't cover outside. He's not a cornerback.

He's a great box safety and against non-elite TE's, he does a good job.

People overvalue the player because of their connection to him as a Chief since 2010.
He could before they ****ing ruined him by starting him at SS. Berry should have been our FS from day one.
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I'm pretty sure that only Dane thinks this. I haven't heard of anyone who doesn't want Berry back even at a big deal.
did you read through this thread?
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