Football Las Vegas Raiders? - Page 5

eDave · 01-29-2016, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Could you imagine 41+ NBA games in Vegas each year?

The league would need to contract teams because too many players would be unavailable.

Courtside would be all hookers and dealers. I say do it.

BWillie · 01-29-2016, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Could you imagine 41+ NBA games in Vegas each year?

The league would need to contract teams because too many players would be unavailable.

It would be so awesome.

ChiefsCountry · 01-29-2016, 05:34 PM

FYI Raiders have their games on radio in Vegas and preseason games on Vegas TV.

**007** · 01-29-2016, 06:19 PM

ESPN just reported that the Chargers are staying put now. What the hell? Guess Raiders to LA is still an option.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

ESPN just reported that the Chargers are staying put now. What the hell? Guess Raiders to LA is still an option.

Los Angeles doesn't want the Raiders. The business leaders will block it.

I seriously doubt that Kroenke wants them either.

Dayze · 01-29-2016, 08:18 PM

Raiders

I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan.

****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 01-30-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Raiders

I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan.

****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

Like people who are "fans" of a team because it's the local franchise but would struggle to name two players on the team are somehow any better? BTW, the colors are actually silver & black. Do you even football much brah?

BWillie · 01-30-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

Like people who are "fans" of a team because it's the local franchise but would struggle to name two players on the team are somehow any better? BTW, the colors are actually silver & black. Do you even football much brah?

Yes, much much better.

Sully · 02-01-2016, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Raiders

I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan.

****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

That was me from about age 12 to 18 or so. It was the Yo, MTV Raps era, Bo was Bo, I was a fan of Howie Long. SO I had the starter jacket, the hats, jersey, etc.

I blame it on bad parenting.

displacedinMN · 01-30-2016, 09:06 PM

How about the Nomadic Raiders.

Every week they play a home game in different city. College, pro, high school, world.

It could be a guessing game. Or cities could have a lottery to try to draw the Faid circus to their city.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-30-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN

How about the Nomadic Raiders.

Every week they play a home game in different city. College, pro, high school, world.

It could be a guessing game. Or cities could have a lottery to try to draw the Faid circus to their city.

As long as they're run by that buffoon of an owner, they're going to be a mess.

My biggest fear with the Raiders is that Mark Davis finally wakes up and realizes that he needs a partner or that he needs to sell, then a Peter Guber or Larry Ellison, et al, steps in to purchase the team, build an amazing stadium and have the smarts to hire an excellent front office.

That would blow.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2016, 10:03 AM

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/2016...egas-this-week

What if I would have told you five months ago the Rams would be in place in Los Angeles and have the top pick in the NFL draft?

And that the Chargers and San Diego might be on their way to a stadium agreement that would keep the Bolts in America’s finest city?

And, finally, the Oakland Raiders would seriously be considering Las Vegas as a future home?

Crazy, right?

Not so fast.

The Rams are back home, and sitting at the top of the draft.

The Chargers are pushing a beautiful new stadium in downtown San Diego, and momentum is building to get things done.

As for the Raiders, it’s too soon to say Viva Las Raiders, but what seemed like a far-fetched idea a few months ago is growing into a full-fledged possibility.

And about to get a big-time push forward.

Raiders owner Mark Davis will be in Las Vegas Thursday when the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) meets to discuss plans to build a 65,000-seat stadium near the Las Vegas strip, and according to sources, Davis will offer a commitment to pursue a Raiders relocation there if financing for the $1.3 billion project is approved.

Davis is absolutely serious about targeting Las Vegas as the future home for his franchise, and sees the growing city as the ideal landing spot for the Raiders both locally and regionally.

In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country.

And they have some powerful people getting behind a stadium effort that might soon be their future home.

Sheldon Adelson of the Sands Corp Corporation is proposing a domed stadium near the Strip through a public-private partnership. The preliminary financing proposal calls for about two-thirds of the funding to come from taxes on tourists.

The SNTIC will review tourism-related projects for possible state funding at this week’s meeting, with the stadium proposal being one of the projects being considered. The committee is expected to make a recommendation later this summer.

Davis’ appearance Thursday – and the commitment he is expected to make – could be a difference maker. Davis will leave no doubt his franchise will pursue relocation to Las Vegas if the stadium project is approved.

“It’s huge because the committee sees (the Raiders) are serious,” a source close to the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Southern California News Group. “And if (the committee) approves the funding, there will be no stopping the train.”

Meanwhile, there is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it.

“It would be a good home for them,” said a high-ranking NFL source.

And it’s a Raiders landing spot that could play perfectly into an NFL game of connect-the-dots that appeases more than just Davis’ interests.

The Rams, Chargers, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans and NFL all have reasons to support a Raiders move to Las Vegas.

The Raiders are one of two teams that have been approved for relocation to Los Angeles to join the Rams at their new stadium in Inglewood, which is scheduled to open in 2019.

The Chargers get first dibs, but will use at least the next year to pursue a long-term stadium solution in San Diego before acting on their Los Angeles option.

If the Chargers opt to remain in San Diego, the Raiders are next in line to join the Rams in L.A.

But the growing momentum in Las Vegas – and the possibility the stadium financing might soon be approved – will leave the Raiders with options.

And potentially position them to use some NFL misgivings about their presence in L.A. - and the league’s desire to keep a second spot open in L.A. to use a stadium leverage across the NFL - to overcome concerns about moving a franchise to Las Vegas.

The Raiders can likely count on support from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as it would mean the Rams having Los Angeles all to themselves.

Meanwhile, Chargers owner Dean Spanos would have obvious motivation to keep the Raiders out of Los Angeles – or San Diego, should the Chargers relocate to L.A. - as it would eliminate the Raiders considerable competition from the Southern California region.

And if you’re Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys or Bob McNair of the Houston Texans, supporting a Raiders move to Los Vegas would mean keeping them out of San Antonio, a city the Raiders have long considered as a possible relocation destination.

Those are four likely votes for the Raiders, who would need 24 of 32 owners to sign off on their wishes.

Obviously there are concerns about Las Vegas – the close proximity to gambling and casinos first and foremost - but it would be a mistake to assume a Raiders move to Las Vegas would be opposed by the NFL.

And the NFL made that abundantly clear in a memo it sent to all teams last February.

In it, the NFL said: There is no prohibition under league rules on a team moving to any particular city. Any proposal for relocation would be evaluated based on the same standards as apply to any proposed move. Those standards are well-known, having just been applied in connection with relocation proposals to Los Angeles.

As a high-ranking league official told me at the owners meeting in Florida:

“I think it would be a mistake to just write Las Vegas off. It’s all predicated on getting the financing in order, but if they do, considering the Raiders brand and how well it could play in Las Vegas and all the various other dots that can be connected, the Raiders would have a very compelling argument to make.”

And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell stressed in March at the league meetings that the casino implications don’t render a Raiders relocation a no-go.

“We’d have to understand it, we’d have to understand what the impact is on us and ultimately each owner would have a vote on that,” Goodell said, implying a softening in the league’s long-held stance on a team presence in Las Vegas.

One month later, the Raiders and Mark Davis are on the verge of making a commitment to Las Vegas.

It seemed far-fetched just a few months ago.

But that train is roaring down the tracks, and if the financing comes through there might not be anything stopping it.

Viva Las Raiders.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2016, 10:06 AM

It's looking like Las Vegas is a serious option for the Raiders, especially since Davis has partnered up for a $1.8 billion dollar facility. Reportedly, the NFL will not stop them, either.

Personally, I think it would be cool and a great reason to hit Vegas each year.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2016, 10:21 AM

You would have to think Chiefs and Broncos a yearly fan travel package to Vegas would be a great seller.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 10:42 AM

Seems like a great idea for opposing teams,dunno about the Raiders

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04-26-2016, 10:03 AM	#12
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2088752	http://www.dailynews.com/sports/2016...egas-this-week What if I would have told you five months ago the Rams would be in place in Los Angeles and have the top pick in the NFL draft? And that the Chargers and San Diego might be on their way to a stadium agreement that would keep the Bolts in America’s finest city? And, finally, the Oakland Raiders would seriously be considering Las Vegas as a future home? Crazy, right? Not so fast. The Rams are back home, and sitting at the top of the draft. The Chargers are pushing a beautiful new stadium in downtown San Diego, and momentum is building to get things done. As for the Raiders, it’s too soon to say Viva Las Raiders, but what seemed like a far-fetched idea a few months ago is growing into a full-fledged possibility. And about to get a big-time push forward. Raiders owner Mark Davis will be in Las Vegas Thursday when the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) meets to discuss plans to build a 65,000-seat stadium near the Las Vegas strip, and according to sources, Davis will offer a commitment to pursue a Raiders relocation there if financing for the $1.3 billion project is approved. Davis is absolutely serious about targeting Las Vegas as the future home for his franchise, and sees the growing city as the ideal landing spot for the Raiders both locally and regionally. In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country. And they have some powerful people getting behind a stadium effort that might soon be their future home. Sheldon Adelson of the Sands Corp Corporation is proposing a domed stadium near the Strip through a public-private partnership. The preliminary financing proposal calls for about two-thirds of the funding to come from taxes on tourists. The SNTIC will review tourism-related projects for possible state funding at this week’s meeting, with the stadium proposal being one of the projects being considered. The committee is expected to make a recommendation later this summer. Davis’ appearance Thursday – and the commitment he is expected to make – could be a difference maker. Davis will leave no doubt his franchise will pursue relocation to Las Vegas if the stadium project is approved. “It’s huge because the committee sees (the Raiders) are serious,” a source close to the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Southern California News Group. “And if (the committee) approves the funding, there will be no stopping the train.” Meanwhile, there is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it. “It would be a good home for them,” said a high-ranking NFL source. And it’s a Raiders landing spot that could play perfectly into an NFL game of connect-the-dots that appeases more than just Davis’ interests. The Rams, Chargers, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans and NFL all have reasons to support a Raiders move to Las Vegas. The Raiders are one of two teams that have been approved for relocation to Los Angeles to join the Rams at their new stadium in Inglewood, which is scheduled to open in 2019. The Chargers get first dibs, but will use at least the next year to pursue a long-term stadium solution in San Diego before acting on their Los Angeles option. If the Chargers opt to remain in San Diego, the Raiders are next in line to join the Rams in L.A. But the growing momentum in Las Vegas – and the possibility the stadium financing might soon be approved – will leave the Raiders with options. And potentially position them to use some NFL misgivings about their presence in L.A. - and the league’s desire to keep a second spot open in L.A. to use a stadium leverage across the NFL - to overcome concerns about moving a franchise to Las Vegas. The Raiders can likely count on support from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as it would mean the Rams having Los Angeles all to themselves. Meanwhile, Chargers owner Dean Spanos would have obvious motivation to keep the Raiders out of Los Angeles – or San Diego, should the Chargers relocate to L.A. - as it would eliminate the Raiders considerable competition from the Southern California region. And if you’re Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys or Bob McNair of the Houston Texans, supporting a Raiders move to Los Vegas would mean keeping them out of San Antonio, a city the Raiders have long considered as a possible relocation destination. Those are four likely votes for the Raiders, who would need 24 of 32 owners to sign off on their wishes. Obviously there are concerns about Las Vegas – the close proximity to gambling and casinos first and foremost - but it would be a mistake to assume a Raiders move to Las Vegas would be opposed by the NFL. And the NFL made that abundantly clear in a memo it sent to all teams last February. In it, the NFL said: There is no prohibition under league rules on a team moving to any particular city. Any proposal for relocation would be evaluated based on the same standards as apply to any proposed move. Those standards are well-known, having just been applied in connection with relocation proposals to Los Angeles. As a high-ranking league official told me at the owners meeting in Florida: “I think it would be a mistake to just write Las Vegas off. It’s all predicated on getting the financing in order, but if they do, considering the Raiders brand and how well it could play in Las Vegas and all the various other dots that can be connected, the Raiders would have a very compelling argument to make.” And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell stressed in March at the league meetings that the casino implications don’t render a Raiders relocation a no-go. “We’d have to understand it, we’d have to understand what the impact is on us and ultimately each owner would have a vote on that,” Goodell said, implying a softening in the league’s long-held stance on a team presence in Las Vegas. One month later, the Raiders and Mark Davis are on the verge of making a commitment to Las Vegas. It seemed far-fetched just a few months ago. But that train is roaring down the tracks, and if the financing comes through there might not be anything stopping it. Viva Las Raiders.
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04-26-2016, 10:06 AM	#13
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04-26-2016, 10:42 AM	#15
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