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**Canofbier** · 03-10-2013, 10:49 AM

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18 is more than young enough for me!

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but prostitution in that part of the world is ****ed up. Lots of underage prostitutes, lots of human trafficking (sex slavery). Even the "legitimate" prostitutes are doing it out of necessity due to extreme poverty and hardly any other choice. It's not hard to find more information on the subject, but the Wikipedia article has a pretty good summary of it.

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-10-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but prostitution in that part of the world is ****ed up. Lots of underage prostitutes, lots of human trafficking (sex slavery). Even the "legitimate" prostitutes are doing it out of necessity due to extreme poverty and hardly any other choice. It's not hard to find more information on the subject, but the Wikipedia article has a pretty good summary of it.

I look at it as helping the poor.

**Canofbier** · 03-10-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

I look at it as helping the poor.

Sorry, but that's pretty ****ing despicable.

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-10-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

Sorry, but that's pretty ****ing despicable.

Relax Debbie, it was a joke.

cardken2 · 03-10-2013, 10:59 AM

The West is the only part of the world that demonizes Prostitution. World oldest profession, as in everything if you don't want to participate then don't and

. Tijuana Mexico, or Las Vegas Nevada (which I've sampled both), no problems, everyone wins. Take your self righteous act down the road. Dating or Married you are paying for sex. Either through a Dinner and Movie with a date or a Mortgage on a house. In the words of Frank Sinatra , "You're not paying them for sex, You're paying them to leave."

**Canofbier** · 03-10-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cardken2

The West is the only part of the world that demonizes Prostitution. World oldest profession, as in everything if you don't want to participate then don't and

. Tijuana Mexico, or Las Vegas Nevada (which I've sampled both), no problems, everyone wins. Take your self righteous act down the road. Dating or Married you are paying for sex. Either through a Dinner and Movie with a date or a Mortgage on a house. In the words of Frank Sinatra , "You're not paying them for sex, You're paying them to leave."

My issue clearly isn't with prostitution itself, but the way it works in that part of the world. Many of the prostitutes there are literally slaves, and even the ones who aren't are often forced into it because they don't have a choice (this isn't America, folks).

You can justify the practice all you want by citing ID cards and shit, but do you think anything suddenly changes in those young womens' lives when they turn 18? For that matter, don't you think that the crime cartels would have thought to create fake IDs for their prostitutes? There are probably instances of safe, fair prostitution practices in Thailand, but I doubt that some American ex-pat is legitimately going to be able to tell which is which. It's the dismissive attitude that so many have that allows the business to thrive as much as it does.

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-10-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

My issue clearly isn't with prostitution itself, but the way it works in that part of the world. Many of the prostitutes there are literally slaves, and even the ones who aren't are often forced into it because they don't have a choice (this isn't America, folks).

You can justify the practice all you want by citing ID cards and shit, but do you think anything suddenly changes in those young womens' lives when they turn 18? For that matter, don't you think that the crime cartels would have thought to create fake IDs for their prostitutes? There are probably instances of safe, fair prostitution practices in Thailand, but I doubt that some American ex-pat is legitimately going to be able to tell which is which. It's the dismissive attitude that so many have that allows the business to thrive as much as it does.

You keep saying this, but you're not making any sense. Do you think that if the prostitution disappeared in Thailand, that these girls would all just shift professions and become doctors and lawyers? That's not the real world. In fact, these girls make more than most lawyers in that part of the world. My opinion is that you're failing to recognize a win/win situation because of your "high moral code".

Brock · 03-10-2013, 11:37 AM

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You keep saying this, but you're not making any sense. Do you think that if the prostitution disappeared in Thailand, that these girls would all just shift professions and become doctors and lawyers? That's not the real world. In fact, these girls make more than most lawyers in that part of the world. My opinion is that you're failing to recognize a win/win situation because of your "high moral code".

He is talking about human trafficking and sex slavery.

KCFaninSEA · 03-10-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cardken2

In the words of Frank Sinatra , "You're not paying them for sex, You're paying them to leave."

Isn't that the truth!!!!!

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-10-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but prostitution in that part of the world is ****ed up. Lots of underage prostitutes, lots of human trafficking (sex slavery). Even the "legitimate" prostitutes are doing it out of necessity due to extreme poverty and hardly any other choice. It's not hard to find more information on the subject, but the Wikipedia article has a pretty good summary of it.

The ones on Walking St., where I'll be hanging out, have their ID/ages documented, along with their sexual disease status. Now while their sexual disease status can immediately change, depending on their last partner--their ages/IDs don't change. The club owners there do too well to risk being shut down over a 16 yr. old. You don't deal with under 18 unless that's what you're specifically looking for. And if that's what you're looking for, you're seriously messed up and you deserve all the trouble and bad karma that comes your way.

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-10-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but prostitution in that part of the world is ****ed up. Lots of underage prostitutes, lots of human trafficking (sex slavery). Even the "legitimate" prostitutes are doing it out of necessity due to extreme poverty and hardly any other choice. It's not hard to find more information on the subject, but the Wikipedia article has a pretty good summary of it.

So what's your point? Why does the fact that they'd rather be having sex for a few hundred dollars a day than working in rice paddies for 2 dollars a week bother you so much?

While I'd like to save the world, reality is reality, and reality is, if I were in those girls' shoes, I'd probably make the exact same decision.

PunkinDrublic · 03-10-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Canofbier

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but prostitution in that part of the world is ****ed up. Lots of underage prostitutes, lots of human trafficking (sex slavery). Even the "legitimate" prostitutes are doing it out of necessity due to extreme poverty and hardly any other choice. It's not hard to find more information on the subject, but the Wikipedia article has a pretty good summary of it.

Obviously you avoid the places that have underage prostitutes.

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cardken2 Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	The West is the only part of the world that demonizes Prostitution. World oldest profession, as in everything if you don't want to participate then don't and . Tijuana Mexico, or Las Vegas Nevada (which I've sampled both), no problems, everyone wins. Take your self righteous act down the road. Dating or Married you are paying for sex. Either through a Dinner and Movie with a date or a Mortgage on a house. In the words of Frank Sinatra , "You're not paying them for sex, You're paying them to leave."
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