Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by wazu

I mean, he did just pass on CJ Stroud last year. The Bears will get everything right except QB.

Let's see what they do this draft.

If they mess up and don't get a good QB then last year will haunt them.

They own the #1 pick though so let's see how they use it.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Let's see what they do this draft.

If they mess up and don't get a good QB then last year will haunt them.

They own the #1 pick though so let's see how they use it.

Yeah, the table is set for them to get a top guy and crush it. Hard to imagine that whomever they get will be better than Stroud, but if they find somebody comparable it could work out great.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by wazu

Yeah, the table is set for them to get a top guy and crush it. Hard to imagine that whomever they get will be better than Stroud, but if they find somebody comparable it could work out great.

Stroud is a very good young QB but Slowik is going to be a head coach somewhere very soon.

[Gravedigger]

I'd stay away from Maye, getting Trubisky vibes from him, it'd be Daniels for me if I'm in the top 3.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

I'd stay away from Maye, getting Trubisky vibes from him, it'd be Daniels for me if I'm in the top 3.

I don't know.

Think Maye is getting undervalued and the Daniels hype is a bit too high.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

I'd stay away from Maye, getting Trubisky vibes from him, it'd be Daniels for me if I'm in the top 3.

Exactly the same for me.

[Mecca]

I think Maye is solid but I don't think he's a franchise player, I think his absolute best case scenario is more mobile Matt Ryan but he could just as easily end up being Alex Smith.

[Eleazar]

Just armchair thinking here, but when you have a guy with super elite arm talent like this, but who doesn't take what the defense gives him at times, wouldn't you want to know how coachable he is? Especially if the athleticism of the defensive linemen he's playing against in the NFL will be much greater and negate some of his escapability, throwing windows will be tighter, reads will need to be made faster, all else.

The attitude coming out of his camp seems to be more that he's a finished product, teams should be considering him as such. Is that the case in his mind, too?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Just armchair thinking here, but when you have a guy with super elite arm talent like this, but who doesn't take what the defense gives him at times, wouldn't you want to know how coachable he is? Especially if the athleticism of the defensive linemen he's playing against in the NFL will be much greater and negate some of his escapability, throwing windows will be tighter, reads will need to be made faster, all else.

The attitude coming out of his camp seems to be more that he's a finished product, teams should be considering him as such. Is that the case in his mind, too?

Could be a lot of things, I don't think Lincoln Riley is a QB whisperer so he just let Caleb do Caleb things.

Also he apparently said the teams he visits will get his medicals, so this is much a do about nothing.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Just armchair thinking here, but when you have a guy with super elite arm talent like this, but who doesn't take what the defense gives him at times, wouldn't you want to know how coachable he is? Especially if the athleticism of the defensive linemen he's playing against in the NFL will be much greater and negate some of his escapability, throwing windows will be tighter, reads will need to be made faster, all else.

The attitude coming out of his camp seems to be more that he's a finished product, teams should be considering him as such. Is that the case in his mind, too?

CB has supreme accuracy , a cannon arm and high-level pocket escapability (lateral quickness). I watched him when he played in high-school and he was pretty ****ing good. But he's not even close to being a complete NFL QB. He's always played in dumbed down systems. He'll be starting from day one in a pass-happy offense with out a 1k rusher and the o-line is medicore. If he could sit behind a solid vet and if the team had guard-rails ("culture") he could get away with his heavyduty punky bitch antics but that's not happening. I think he'll be a better QB than fields long term if (big if) the coordinator can adjust his scheme and the players can deal with hero-ball 20 yard sacks.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Just armchair thinking here, but when you have a guy with super elite arm talent like this, but who doesn't take what the defense gives him at times, wouldn't you want to know how coachable he is? Especially if the athleticism of the defensive linemen he's playing against in the NFL will be much greater and negate some of his escapability, throwing windows will be tighter, reads will need to be made faster, all else.

The attitude coming out of his camp seems to be more that he's a finished product, teams should be considering him as such. Is that the case in his mind, too?

The fact that Miller Moss stepped in and looked as good as Caleb Williams has at any point in the last year has to mean something, right?

Dude throws 6 TDs in his only start. That's gotta matter. Especially when there are real concerns that the guy doesn't process very well.

[Eleazar]

I guess if you're the Bears, you might feel that Fields' limitations as a passer are the team's primary problem and that Williams should develop into an elite passer. On the surface level it makes sense irrespective of the staff.

[RunKC]

Deion Sanders acted this way and wouldn’t even talk to teams that didn’t have a high enough pick to take him.

He turned out fine and so will Caleb. He’s gonna be good. If any franchise deserves a good QB it’s the Bears

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Deion Sanders acted this way and wouldn’t even talk to teams that didn’t have a high enough pick to take him.

He turned out fine and so will Caleb. He’s gonna be good. If any franchise deserves a good QB it’s the Bears

And Deion went 6th overall. Talking like that to a team with the 18th pick.

I wasn’t alive at the time to know if he was a projected #1 overall but I doubt it in such a stacked draft.

That’s insane confidence.. or maybe he had conversations with teams that led him to believe there was absolutely no way he’d fall beyond a certain pick.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Deion Sanders acted this way and wouldn’t even talk to teams that didn’t have a high enough pick to take him.

He turned out fine and so will Caleb. He’s gonna be good. If any franchise deserves a good QB it’s the Bears

Whoa, cornerback is a hell of a lot different than QB.