Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 125

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Still waiting for you to name another player in any sport who was “day to day” for 91 days without playing or practicing.

Obviously you won’t answer the question, so continue to shit all over yourself with your rambling, incoherent defense of Eric Berry.

The fact you are completely oblivious to how pathetic you look is comedy that keeps on giving.

The fact I can understand a contract is a mistake, hate a situation, and not make wild accusations about a player's character doesn't make me look pathetic. Its quite the opposite.

But again you are stupid mother ****er and always have been.

-King- · 11-10-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

The fact I realize you can understand a contract is a mistake, hate a situation, and not make wild accusations about a players character doesn't make me look pathetic. Its quite the opposite.

But again you are stupid mother ****er and always have been.

BUT HES LISTED AS DAY TO DAY! DAY TO DAY! HOW DOESNT THAT PISS YOU OFF!!?!?
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Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

BUT HES LISTED AS DAY TO DAY! DAY TO DAY! HOW DOESNT THAT PISS YOU OFF!!?!?
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WHY WOULD IT PISS ME OFF? I CANT CHANGE IT!!!!!! NOR DOES IT PROVE ANYTHING!

FloridaMan88 · 11-10-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Why do you care what he's listed as? How does it affect your life?

It's weird you're so hung up on the day to day classification.
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Players who are legit seriously injured aren’t described as “day to day” for 91 days.

GloryDayz · 11-10-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Dude i think you are an alright guy but you are literally the least reasonable and measured poster when it comes to any topic, wether its sports or politics. You are perfect example of the extreme end of every topic.

If someone is on the same plane as you on a topic they are on the extreme end of it.

It's all good, I just call 'um like I see 'um, no apologies, and I'm not seeking middle ground. The truth is Berry has earned every bit of ill will he's getting. Don't feel too sorry for him, after all he's getting paid very well to be mocked.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:22 PM

Jesus Christ people if I though Berry was just being a pussy and had no intentions of playing I would be pissed.

I just don't believe the guy went from being the consummate professions and teammate, to a total piece of shit. That makes less sense than it is just what it is, they are working with him all the time trying to get him as healthy as possible.

The guy spends every damn day damn near in the facility with his team and not a ****ing peep out of anyone about anything negative, I wonder why.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

It's all good, I just call 'um like I see 'um, no apologies, and I'm not seeking middle ground. The truth is Berry has earned every bit of ill will he's getting. Don't feel too sorry for him, after all he's getting paid very well to be mocked.

Where the **** did you get the idea I feel sorry for Berry?

-King- · 11-10-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Players who are legit seriously injured aren’t described as “day to day” for 91 days.

It's like you didn't even read what he has and why it makes him day to day.
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FloridaMan88 · 11-10-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Jesus Christ people if I though Berry was just being a pussy and had no intentions of playing I would be pissed.

I just don't believe the guy went from being the consummate professions and teammate, to a total piece of shit. That makes less sense than it is just what it is, they are working with him all the time trying to get him as healthy as possible.

The guy spends every damn day damn near in the facility with his team and not a ****ing peep out of anyone about anything negative, I wonder why.

For someone who is lecturing others about “being angry”, you continue to sound like an angry dumbshit with your incoherent temper tantrums.

Why are you so mad about what others think about Berry?

GloryDayz · 11-10-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Where the **** did you get the idea I feel sorry for Berry?

Sorry, I thought you were sympathizing with him.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

For someone who is lecturing others about “being angry”, you continue to sound like an angry dumbshit with your incoherent temper tantrums.

Why are you so mad about what others think about Berry?

I think you have to be a special kind of stupid and low character yourself to question his character.

And there is nothing incoherent in my rants. Case in point, a stupid mother****er such as yourself has understood every word.

Now go **** yourself. Was that clear enough?

FloridaMan88 · 11-10-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think you have to be a special kind of stupid and low character yourself to question his character.

And there is nothing incoherent in my rants. Case in point, a stupid mother****er such as yourself has understood every word.

Now go **** yourself. Was that clear enough?

Triggered.

This is like watching Tiger/Baby Lee taking personal offense to criticism of Alex Smiff.

Quite the company you are joining in your brain dead defense of Eric Berry.

Imon Yourside · 11-10-2018, 05:32 PM

I don't know if it's Berry or the organization but someone continues to drop the ball here. He should have had the surgery if it is Haglunds as he would probably already be out there playing everyday. This isn't normal.

Marcellus · 11-10-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Triggered.

This is like watching Tiger/Baby Lee taking personal offense to criticism of Alex Smiff.

Quite the company you are joining in your brain dead defense of Eric Berry.

Says the pussy with his rep turned off. I wonder why.

I will give you credit, you are right, I have wasted too much time on your stupid ass.

KCJake · 11-10-2018, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

It's like you didn't even read what he has and why it makes him day to day.
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Its frustrating. Like Berry being listed as "Doubtful" on the injury report. Every Wednesday. Week after week. Not "Out" but doubtful. Giving the impression that there's been a chance he'd be playing ever since week 1. Yet we all know damn well he's not.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1836899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $2892662	Jesus Christ people if I though Berry was just being a pussy and had no intentions of playing I would be pissed. I just don't believe the guy went from being the consummate professions and teammate, to a total piece of shit. That makes less sense than it is just what it is, they are working with him all the time trying to get him as healthy as possible. The guy spends every damn day damn near in the facility with his team and not a ****ing peep out of anyone about anything negative, I wonder why.
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Imon Yourside WhatUneed2Hear Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: AllSoulsMatter Casino cash: $2463181	I don't know if it's Berry or the organization but someone continues to drop the ball here. He should have had the surgery if it is Haglunds as he would probably already be out there playing everyday. This isn't normal. __________________ "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" Peter 5:8 "Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay" Isaiah 29:16 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Revelation 3:20
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