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Old 09-10-2012, 10:28 AM  
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I'm Worried About Ryan Succop
His missed FG yesterday completely changed the tone of the game. We were about to tie the game up- and then completely fell apart. Am I ready to give up on Succop? Not yet. But he still worries me. What do you guys think?
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:01 PM   #46
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if he is "essentially" another Connor Barth he would be the current most accurate kicker in the league. Because Barth was the most accurate kicker in the league last season. And that makes him one of the best kickers in the league. not an "average" kicker
Barth hit 26/28 last year to lead the league. The season before that he hit 23 of 28 and the season before that he hit 14/19.

He had a great year in 2011, an average year in 2010 and a bad year in 2009. The trend is positive, but to date he hasn't exactly made a lot of pressure kicks and he's kicking in a decent environment.

Sample sizes make looking at a single season an unreliable indicator of a kicker's skill. If he does it for another season, you may be onto something. Right now though, he's just another decent kicker.

I'm not going to get bent out of shape over cutting him for Succop, though it does pretty much take any bloom out of that draft pick's rose. At best, Succop was a lateral move.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:02 PM   #47
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:02 PM   #48
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Sure about that, eh?
Well if kicking is anything like hitting a golf ball, I can see why it sliced off to the right. His leg follow through is clear over to the left so he came across it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:04 PM   #49
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Barth hit 26/28 last year to lead the league. The season before that he hit 23 of 28 and the season before that he hit 14/19.

He had a great year in 2011, an average year in 2010 and a bad year in 2009. The trend is positive, but to date he hasn't exactly made a lot of pressure kicks and he's kicking in a decent environment.

Sample sizes make looking at a single season an unreliable indicator of a kicker's skill. If he does it for another season, you may be onto something. Right now though, he's just another decent kicker.

I'm not going to get bent out of shape over cutting him for Succop, though it does pretty much take any bloom out of that draft pick's rose. At best, Succop was a lateral move.
that's still more than average if you go from 82 percent to 92 percent in a season

and then out of the gate this season show you can continue the trend by going 3/3 in his first game. He's more than average he is one of the better kickers in the league. And Fat Scott flat out cut him. Like he did Jason Babin. like he did Wade Smith. Because Fat Scott is an overrated fat piece of shit GM idiot
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:04 PM   #50
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If a missed FG with a half game still to be played changes the tone of your game it isn't the kicker you need to worry about.
Thank you. This is what I keep saying.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:06 PM   #51
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I've never seen a kicker slice a kick like that in near perfect conditions. That being said, the play was rushed, and I don't think the snap was all that great.

There are better kickers out there, and worse kickers. I'm more worried about getting the D shored up at this particular moment, though.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:36 PM   #52
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didn't see the game, but I heard elsewhere that Colquitt was confused on the spot of the ball, and that they had to rush the kick. That usually means a miss.
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He's an 80 percent kicker to this point in his career.

You know what Adam Vinatieri's career FG percentage is?

82.7

Succop doesn't need replacing.
unless we can clone Jan Stenerud.

That said, I think every year we should bring in meaningful competition for him via draft or FA until someone outperforms him. But like someone said, he is near the bottom of this team's problems.

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