Chiefs A loss that shakes: The Chiefs must prove they are not who they now appear to be

Hammock Parties · 12-24-2018, 03:43 AM

Most ominous shit Sam has ever written

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...223500455.html

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SEATTLE

Do this job long enough and the signs make themselves obvious. The worst losses have a different sound afterward, the busy silence occasionally broken up by a locker door slamming, or team leaders declining to talk to reporters, or hope for hope’s sake.

The losses that sting make clear the difference between a team that’s earned the AFC’s No. 1 seed and a team that might still wear that title despite itself.

The moments that shake are the difference between a team that lost, and these Chiefs who lost their swagger after a 38-31 nationally televised loss here to the Seahawks.

“It seems extreme right now but that’s not the reality of it,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “Just a fix a couple things and we’ll be alright.”

He might be right. Actually, that’s not true. He is right. Just a couple things. The Chiefs have now lost four games, by a total of 10 points, each of them decided in one form or another late in the fourth quarter.

They’ve lost to two AFC teams. The Patriots have lost three of five, and the Chargers have led the Chiefs for exactly 4 of 7,200 seconds this season. The Chiefs play the Raiders at home next week, which is the closest thing the NFL offers to a week 17 bye. Win that and the Chiefs have the No. 1 seed.

So, Reid is right. Just a couple things. This is not a disaster.

But you sure can see disaster from here.

“You have to find a way to win these games,” quarterback Patrick Mahomes said. “We haven’t been lately, so that’s the most frustrating thing. Everybody’s got to step up.”

Repeat: Just a couple things. We’ll be alright.

That works enough as coach speak in a postgame press conference, words that nobody in the room believes tell the whole story, but let’s play along. A couple things.

One would be the run defense. The Seahawks ran for the most predictable 210 yards in NFL history. Up the middle, around the edge, quarterback Russell Wilson on a scramble. Whatever. It all worked.

One would be the pass defense. The Chiefs again could not cover, and when they did cover, they could not make the play. They made up for all of that by missing far too many tackles.

One would be penalties. They padded their league-leading total with eight more, including one on a missed field goal and four others that gave the Seahawks first downs.

One would be the offense. Nobody wants to admit it, but this is two games in a row the offense has not been good enough. Last week against the Chargers, they needed one first down on their last possession. They went three and out. This week, they managed just 10 points with two turnovers (one that gifted the Seahawks a touchdown) before halftime. They had five possessions in which they punted or turned it over within three plays.

This team was always going as far as the offense would take it, whether that’s fair or not, and the last two weeks the offense hasn’t been good enough.

That’s four things, which is technically more than “a couple,” but this is no time for nitpicking so let’s get to the point.

Do you have confidence the Chiefs will fix these problems? And if so, why? How?

The Chiefs are in a precarious place. They are the probable No. 1 seed, even still, and are giving seldom-used rookie defensive backs the ol’ screw-it-how-much-worse-could-they-be opportunities in week 16 road games.

They have been the AFC’s best team for virtually the entire season, but at this point that feels more like an indictment on the rest of the conference than a reason to be confident in the Chiefs.

Assuming they beat the Raiders next week — and if they don’t, they’ve got much bigger problems — we are still three weeks from the Chiefs’ next real test.

And the heck of it is that Reid is factually accurate. They’re not that far off. The NFL’s gravitational pull means parody rules the day, always has, and the Chiefs will likely have homefield advantage, the best quarterback, and the best offense in the field.

That is an incredible place to be, particularly in what the organization originally forecasted as a transition year.

But the Chiefs are trending the wrong way, at the wrong time. That offense isn’t as dynamic as it once was. Eric Berry is playing again, but most of the biggest problems on defense still exist, even when he’s not on the sideline during the most important moments.

The Chiefs have everything in front of them, even still.

But the truth is a lot of their fans are terrified of what that means.

MMXcalibur · 12-24-2018, 03:52 AM

If you don't have your guard up for next month's inevitable playoff heartbreak, then you deserve the ensuing agony.

**bevischief** · 12-24-2018, 04:01 AM

Since when dirty do diapers fly without?

Lurker · 12-24-2018, 04:26 AM

Parody?! Who are the Chiefs a parody of? Is some other team parodying the Chiefs? Maybe some other year but not this one.

Why can't even "professional" writers use basic vocabulary correctly?

(I guess to be fair, this is the only error I've noticed in any of his articles.)

redfan · 12-24-2018, 04:51 AM

Parody does rule the day in KC. Chiefs are a parody of a playoff team.

TLO · 12-24-2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief

Since when dirty do diapers fly without?

What????

crayzkirk · 12-24-2018, 08:27 AM

It didn't really shake me, it solidified my belief that

We
Will
Never
Win
With
Andy

**notorious** · 12-24-2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk

It didn't really shake me, it solidified my belief that

We
Will
Never
Win
With
Andy

We thought Mahomes would cancel him out. Instead, another one of Reid’s warts in Sutton continues to sabotage their chances.

How can a guy that is obviously very smart make such stupid decisions over and over?

FAH-Q · 12-24-2018, 08:35 AM

Mellinger gets paid by the word, so he spews out as much lyrical BS as he can. That's understandable for a columnist. What we are watching is the same exact brand of football we've seen year after year, not only with Reid coached teams, but with anyone who coaches this franchise. The two sides of the ball never being on the same page and the lack of accountability when it truly matters. What we are watching is a precursor to what is going to happen in the playoffs. The Mahomes magic can only make up for so much...when our tackles are getting beat like drums (I'm really surprised the putrid o-line play hasn't been discussed more), our receivers cannot get open, the dumb fumbles, the ineptitude on defense from the linebackers to the secondary, you can't expect a QB to overcome ALL of that stuff.

Red Dawg2 · 12-24-2018, 08:39 AM

How can they sell Sutton in 19. I just can't believ they can. The KC media need to slam him without mercy and so do the fans so Clark will do something. Sutton can not be allowed to return. It's pretty obvious how our season will end. Same way in the last two games.

Reerun_KC · 12-24-2018, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

It didn't really shake me, it solidified my belief that

We
Will
Never
Win
With
Andy

/close thread.

Red Dawg2 · 12-24-2018, 08:41 AM

We also have a WR problem. Kelce and Hill getting coverage moved should get Connely and Robinson in favorable match ups. They don't win them so we stall all the time. They suck ass.

rabblerouser · 12-24-2018, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

We thought Mahomes would cancel him out. Instead, another one of Reid’s warts in Sutton continues to sabotage their chances.

How can a guy that is obviously very smart make such stupid decisions over and over?

Can't blame all the 3 and outs and inability to move the ball on offense...

TwistedChief · 12-24-2018, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

It didn't really shake me, it solidified my belief that

We
Will
Never
Win
With
Andy

We were warned in a Taylor Swift parody video, dammit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z447qc4ZRRA

crayzkirk · 12-24-2018, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

We thought Mahomes would cancel him out. Instead, another one of Reid’s warts in Sutton continues to sabotage their chances.

How can a guy that is obviously very smart make such stupid decisions over and over?

Maybe he isn't really that smart and has been bailed out by good players. I don't know what it is however I have never seen a team that takes such bad angles on defense, misses so many tackles, is constantly out of position, etc. This is on the coaching staff.

Is Mahomes going to be another Marino?

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FAH-Q Veteran Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $7670400	Mellinger gets paid by the word, so he spews out as much lyrical BS as he can. That's understandable for a columnist. What we are watching is the same exact brand of football we've seen year after year, not only with Reid coached teams, but with anyone who coaches this franchise. The two sides of the ball never being on the same page and the lack of accountability when it truly matters. What we are watching is a precursor to what is going to happen in the playoffs. The Mahomes magic can only make up for so much...when our tackles are getting beat like drums (I'm really surprised the putrid o-line play hasn't been discussed more), our receivers cannot get open, the dumb fumbles, the ineptitude on defense from the linebackers to the secondary, you can't expect a QB to overcome ALL of that stuff.
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Red Dawg2 Starter Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	How can they sell Sutton in 19. I just can't believ they can. The KC media need to slam him without mercy and so do the fans so Clark will do something. Sutton can not be allowed to return. It's pretty obvious how our season will end. Same way in the last two games.
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Red Dawg2 Starter Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	We also have a WR problem. Kelce and Hill getting coverage moved should get Connely and Robinson in favorable match ups. They don't win them so we stall all the time. They suck ass.
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