*** Official Youth, High School, College and International Wrestling Thread ***

[rico]

I can't be the only wrestling fan on this site. In fact, I know I that's not the case. The almighty king of n00bs, Sorter, is a wrestling fan. I figure there could be more.....????

Discuss anything wrestling related:

Youth wrestling: Heck, wrestling in Iowa has a rabid Youth wrestling scene...I lived through it, my younger brother lived through it and my brothers who are 15 and 13 are living through it, well the 13 year old is anyway...he's in high school. The 13 year old is a 7th grader who has been wrestling since he was 5 years old and has accumulated 4 state championships since his second grade year...a total badass. Believe it or not, Iowa has a youth wrestling forum that is hopping...even during the summer. Iowans take this stuff seriously. I'm assuming other states have rabid youth followings, for when I watch my bros at National tourneys, we are constantly running into kids and super clubs from other states that are amazing. Ironically, one of the biggest youth tourneys our club hits annually is the Park Hill Individual and Dual tournament...which to my knowledge is in Kansas City (I've never attended that one). Do any of you have kids who are wrestling? If so, how are they doing?

High School Wrestling: High school and college wrestling in Iowa is big... we are known for it, ask AC Slater. State tournament is a big, televised event at the Wells Fargo dome...you will see probably 10 times more spectators at state wrestling in Iowa then any other high school sporting event in Iowa. With some of the crazy talent I have seen/wrestled against at Fargo Nationals, I am assuming that it's either on the rise or just as big in other states as well... What are your thoughts on some of the high school wrestlers and/or teams out there?

College Wrestling: Hell, you Missourians semi-recently had those Askren brothers. I've never met Max, but have met Ben. He was the celebrity guest at Iowa Grade School State one year...he signed autographs and handed the medals and wall charts to all of the kids on the podium that year, which was cool because my youngest brother won it that year and was able to get his championship singlet signed by him. I was with my brother when he approached him....Askren struck me as a funny, goofy type of dude. I don't know Max, but someone posted his blog on an Iowa wrestling message board and the dude seems like a character. I know there are some Oklahomans' who post on this board. Anyone see Okie State defeat Iowa this past weekend? Iowa's first dual loss of the year. Anyone have any thoughts on college wrestling?

International Wrestling: Any of you have any thoughts on the international wrestling scene? Future Olympians, future Olympic champs, future World champs, Greco, Freestyle, etc.?

Wrestling Memories/General Discussion: Any of you have any memories you'd like to share from your personal experience(s) of wrestling when you were in youth, high school or college? Any opinions on females wrestling with males. Last year, a girl named Megan Black made history in Iowa by placing at state. Do you believe females should be able to wrestle with males at that age? Any thoughts on weight cutting? What are some of the most memorable matches to you? Who are your favorite wrestlers? One match that always sticks out to me is this:



Crazy match.

My favorite wrestler (besides my bros and former teammates) of all time is ironically not an Iowan. I don't really have a favorite team in wrestling...I root for individuals. It's a dude from Ohio that I initially hated because I didn't like the way he conducted himself after a match vs. my brother in the national duals when he and my brother were Seniors in High School, in which he defeated my brother. Kid was cocky. He and my brother both went on to wrestle D1, so I followed him since I knew who he was. I ended up becoming a huge fan of the kid's style...the kid could hit cradles from ANY position. He went on to win 2 National titles for Ohio State...and did so both years as an underdog, for he'd lose quite a few silly matches during the season, presumably due to his risky, but dangerous style that worked well for him at NCAA Nationals. It's a dude named Jeff Jaggers. First vid is what really put his name on the map as a high school wrestler. 2nd vid is his 1st NCAA championship as a Junior, in a match where he was a huge underdog, broke his ankle during the match and gutted it out and won. My favorite wrestlers tend to be the ones who are risk takers or brawlers...not afraid to be aggressive or take chances. I can't stand stallish wrestlers who are successful as hell simply because they don't open up and therefore don't give up points and score their own points by capitalizing on the other wrestler's aggression. Boring.






So what ya got?

Note: I have been posting on wrestling message boards for 12 years and I (and I'm sure everyone else involved with the sport) have heard every wrestling joke (rolling around with men, etc.) imaginable, but if ya want to clown on the sport, shoot... it was inevitable to happen anyways on CP, so have at it!

[GloryDayz]

Again, **** OSU....

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Port gets injured against Steiber.
Cox gets his eye poked against Snyder
Moisey gets his knee wrenched against Tomasello

I'm noticing a pattern.

Next year people will wrestle them the same way.

[rico]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What happened to him in this tournament? Did he just have a bad 24 hour period, or did it reveal some weaknesses in his style?

Is he big enough that he could struggle at 197 because he is weight drained?

I think Rudy's response is probably pretty spot on.

The one question I have is about his weight....since he was at 220 in high school, I just assume that Cox does cut some weight...however, I am unaware of how much he actually weighed when he was at 220. Some guys handle weight cutting better than others... And weight cutting, even at the college level can become increasingly more and more difficult with each passing year for some kids. I'm not for certain if this is a factor for Cox, but it could be. I know I didn't handle it well... I came in to college as a projected 157 lber...continued to grow and cut my butt off to make 174 lbs my first two seasons...by the time I was a Junior, I felt like I was dying trying to make 184. Weight is likely a detrimental factor for many of these guys...

[GloryDayz]

**** OSU!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by rico

I think Rudy's response is probably pretty spot on.

The one question I have is about his weight....since he was at 220 in high school, I just assume that Cox does cut some weight...however, I am unaware of how much he actually weighed when he was at 220. Some guys handle weight cutting better than others... And weight cutting, even at the college level can become increasingly more and more difficult with each passing year for some kids. I'm not for certain if this is a factor for Cox, but it could be. I know I didn't handle it well... I came in to college as a projected 157 lber...continued to grow and cut my butt off to make 174 lbs my first two seasons...by the time I was a Junior, I felt like I was dying trying to make 184. Weight is likely a detrimental factor for many of these guys...

Cox went 171, 215, 220, and HWT in high school. So who knows what he was walking around at two years ago.

[GloryDayz]

Changing channel. This is dumb! **** OSU...

[rico]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cox went 171, 215, 220, and HWT in high school. So who knows what he was walking around at two years ago.

Oh shit, I didn't realize he was HWT.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm guessing that, based on Missouri's inability to offer full scholarships, they develop overlooked wrestlers rather than pick elite ones.

Is that true? How has Smith built up the program?

How long will it be before they have another team that can compete at nationals?

Pretty much true. They recruit the state well and Missouri HS wrestlers have shown they can hang at the collegiate level. Cox was an elite recruit. Their problem is they are competing with Iowa and Okie St., who have great history in the sport, and Penn State and Ohio State, who are in the hot bed of HS wrestling and have monster recruiters as coaches. Mizzou's best chance is to continue getting state talent and making progress in the state of Illinois-- which has fantastic HS wrestling. Mizzou can develop with the best of them.

Unfortunately there is not a lot of team parity in D1 wrestling. The top programs know how to stay on top. I can't see Mizzou having a legit shot anytime soon. Iowa, PSU, Okie St. and tOSU are set up so nicely for the future. But with Cox, Miklus, Lavallee, Lewis, and Mayes, I definitely see more top 5-10 finishes.

[rico]

And he (Cox) is a Psych major...I wish I had the opportunity to let him know how much of a mistake that is.

[rico]

I wonder what team will end up landing Spencer Lee in a couple years...

[rico]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Pretty much true. They recruit the state well and Missouri HS wrestlers have shown they can hang at the collegiate level. Cox was an elite recruit. Their problem is they are competing with Iowa and Okie St., who have great history in the sport, and Penn State and Ohio State, who are in the hot bed of HS wrestling and have monster recruiters as coaches. Mizzou's best chance is to continue getting state talent and making progress in the state of Illinois-- which has fantastic HS wrestling. Mizzou can develop with the best of them.

Unfortunately there is not a lot of team parity in D1 wrestling. The top programs know how to stay on top. I can't see Mizzou having a legit shot anytime soon. Iowa, PSU, Okie St. and tOSU are set up so nicely for the future. But with Cox, Miklus, Lavallee, Lewis, and Mayes, I definitely see more top 5-10 finishes.

What does their recruiting class look like so far this year?

Look up Steven Holloway. He will be 197 in college. If J'Den does end up going up to HWT, he'd be a nice, somewhat local (SEI) kid to fill in.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by rico

What does their recruiting class look like so far this year?

Look up Steven Holloway. He will be 197 in college. If J'Den does end up going up to HWT, he'd be a nice, somewhat local (SEI) kid to fill in.

Pretty standard class. They have a few solid guys in state and a mid-level recruits from North Carolina and Virginia. Jaydin Clayton just beat a top 20 recruit who is going to Oklahoma State and I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting at 141 next year with Mayes likely taking Houdashelt's spot.

Holloway seems like he would be a good get. They do have a verbal from 2016Ethan Anderson, but Im guessing he is a heavyweight. What's his frame like?

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by rico

I wonder what team will end up landing Spencer Lee in a couple years...

Dude is such a beast. There's a reason PSU hasn't been recruiting a 125 pounder. Hope it doesn't backfire on them.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Pretty standard class. They have a few solid guys in state and a mid-level recruits from North Carolina and Virginia. Jaydin Clayton just beat a top 20 recruit who is going to Oklahoma State and I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting at 141 next year with Mayes likely taking Houdashelt's spot.

Holloway seems like he would be a good get. They do have a verbal from 2016Ethan Anderson, but Im guessing he is a heavyweight. What's his frame like?

On the podcasts/radio stuff I did to cover our wrestling, I coined him "Hercules Holloway." Built like a Greek God. Google him.

MU needs to use the Miklus bros as sources to land some of these Southeast Polk kids...my God that team has some studs.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by rico

And he (Cox) is a Psych major...I wish I had the opportunity to let him know how much of a mistake that is.

He actually wants to be a creative writing teacher for deaf students. He lost all of the hearing in his left ear this year.