Trailer for Ridley Scott's Alien prequel leaked

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I thought that seemed pretty clearly to be the case.

Yeah, I just didn't notice it first time around. Sometimes I get so lost in the visuals that I miss things. I've probably seen Watchmen five or six times and I still notice little things I hadn't caught before.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by frazod

I'm surprised by this - I obviously loved it. Made me want to watch Lawrence of Arabia again, too.

Didn't really pick up more from the first time, except

Spoiler!

I'm fairly sure the storm wasn't natural, but some sort of security measure.

I didn't even really think of that.

How did you like the IMAX 3D?

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Buck

I didn't even really think of that.

How did you like the IMAX 3D?

It was pretty bad ass. I sat right in front, too.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by frazod

It was pretty bad ass. I sat right in front, too.

You and me both. I was front and center, feet propped up on the railing. Favorite spot in the house.

[siberian khatru]

Just got back from seeing it. Liked it a lot, but ... it was far from great, for many reasons keg listed.

Visually outstanding -- one of the best FX films I've ever seen. The 3D was terrific and worth the money (for a change). It also stimulated a lot of discussion between me and my son about the different strands of DNA in humans, aliens and xenomorphs.

However, I felt like the movie needed to be 30 minutes longer to slow down and fill in a lot of backstory on the characters, to let them develop and explain their later actions -- especially, I felt, with the captain and Vickers. I thought Guy Pearce as Weyland was a complete waste. Anybody could've played that role.

I wonder how much was left on the editing room floor. Perhaps it would benefit from a nice director's cut blu-ray. Or maybe it was just poorly written.

[Bowser]

The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Bowser

The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

Spoiler!

Well, they are a bit limited in what they can do. Obviously Shaw can never make it back to earth and report her findings in a way that becomes common knowledge, although it's likely that she could make it back only to be silenced/discredited in some way by the company (perhaps Yutani will be the next corporate snake she has to deal with). I certainly hope we learn more about the engineers - hopefully in the next movie she'll run into one who's a bit more talkative.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Bowser

The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

There will definitely be a sequel.

Can't ****ing wait. No one makes movies like Ridley Scott. Even when they suck, I'm in a trance. That includes Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Bowser

The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

Nah, it doesn't have anything to do with that. They've said from the beginning it wasn't a direct prequel and I believed them.

What I didn't like was basically lazy storytelling. Coincidences and convenient setups, poorly done foreshadowing and reveals, and particularly people doing things people wouldn't ever do facing the situation in 'real life' (this is important - you want to suspend disbelief but people still have to react in a believable way).

Beef number 1: taking off their damn helmets. That was just dumb. And when I say it was dumb, I mean the writing. That's like bad horror movie level stuff.

There was a lot more, to go into any details would be serious spoiler territory, but the short list would be splitting up the group the way they did, introducing infertility when and how they did, basically everything David did, basically all of Vickers and finally the way that for the entire movie, nearly every character was a cliche, there was no real development for anybody but Shaw (and hers wasn't done very well; not organic at all, stuff just kept getting introduced in nonsensical leaps), everyone else was a cardboard cutout that was there only to set up their death scene.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Nah, it doesn't have anything to do with that. They've said from the beginning it wasn't a direct prequel and I believed them.

What I didn't like was basically lazy storytelling. Coincidences and convenient setups, poorly done foreshadowing and reveals, and particularly people doing things people wouldn't ever do facing the situation in 'real life' (this is important - you want to suspend disbelief but people still have to react in a believable way).

Beef number 1: taking off their damn helmets. That was just dumb. And when I say it was dumb, I mean the writing. That's like bad horror movie level stuff.

There was a lot more, to go into any details would be serious spoiler territory, but the short list would be splitting up the group the way they did, introducing infertility when and how they did, basically everything David did, basically all of Vickers and finally the way that for the entire movie, nearly every character was a cliche, there was no real development for anybody but Shaw (and hers wasn't done very well; not organic at all, stuff just kept getting introduced in nonsensical leaps), everyone else was a cardboard cutout that was there only to set up their death scene.

I enjoyed it, but can't argue much with your criticisms. That's what held me back from really loving it, despite my desire to do just that. Another one : the biologist reaction when that snake-like creature reared up in front of him. He reacts as if it's friendly, but it looked like a cobra. Would you really get that close and try to interact when just moments earlier you were frightened with every noise and shadow?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by KevB

Would you really get that close and try to interact when just moments earlier you were frightened with every noise and shadow?

Because idiots in horror sci fi do dumb things to get killed.

I mean, it's not like the characters in Alien didn't do dumb things that ended up getting them killed.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by KevB

I enjoyed it, but can't argue much with your criticisms. That's what held me back from really loving it, despite my desire to do just that. Another one : the biologist reaction when that snake-like creature reared up in front of him. He reacts as if it's friendly, but it looked like a cobra. Would you really get that close and try to interact when just moments earlier you were frightened with every noise and shadow?

Yeah, that one got me, too. The other was when the Captain of Prometheus just landed on the conclusion that the planet was nothing more than a biological warfare test site, despite not leaving the ship but once.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by KevB

I enjoyed it, but can't argue much with your criticisms. That's what held me back from really loving it, despite my desire to do just that. Another one : the biologist reaction when that snake-like creature reared up in front of him. He reacts as if it's friendly, but it looked like a cobra. Would you really get that close and try to interact when just moments earlier you were frightened with every noise and shadow?

Yeah, that was pretty lame. That character reminded me of the typical horror movie bimbo who goes down into the basement by herself.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by frazod

Yeah, that was pretty lame. That character reminded me of the typical horror movie bimbo who goes down into the basement by herself.

Every character in the movie was an idiot, apart from the Android.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat

Every character in the movie was an idiot, apart from the Android.

To a certain extent, yes. But that is typical of horror movies. If people in horror movies weren't stupid, they generally wouldn't die.