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Old 12-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #1
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Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:01 PM   #2
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Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.
This might be off, but if Lewis, Jackson, and Willis were available in this draft, considering where the Chiefs are roster wise and the defense we run, I'm taking a QB over all of those guys.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:03 PM   #3
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This might be off, but if Lewis, Jackson, and Willis were available in this draft, considering where the Chiefs are roster wise and the defense we run, I'm taking a QB over one of those guys.
That's fine.

Just don't tell me that Te'o is worthy of the number one overall pick, the Heisman, etc. when clearly he is not.

If the guy was at Wisconsin, he'd be mid-second rounder. Hell, Rey Maualuga was at USC sandwiched between Cushing and Matthews and HE was a second rounder.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #4
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This might be off, but if Lewis, Jackson, and Willis were available in this draft, considering where the Chiefs are roster wise and the defense we run, I'm taking a QB over one of those guys.
Not off at all.

Out linebackers could all quit and I would still take the qb
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:06 PM   #5
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Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.
That's why I qualified my statement. I do have this sneaky feeling that he benefits from the media love for Notre Dame. I guess, like you say the combines will decide. Strangely though, it seems a lot of draft prospects evaluation this year are pending the combine.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:10 PM   #6
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That's why I qualified my statement. I do have this sneaky feeling that he benefits from the media love for Notre Dame. I guess, like you say the combines will decide. Strangely though, it seems a lot of draft prospects evaluation this year are pending the combine.
Yeah, a lot of them seem to be up in the (mid)air.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:16 PM   #7
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Strangely though, it seems a lot of draft prospects evaluation this year are pending the combine.
Personally, I've always felt this was true. But this year, with the Chiefs picking #1 or #2 overall, the Combine has an even greater significance.

Add in the new CBA (i.e., far less money invested) along with fan impatience and we're really looking at a franchise that needs to get this pick "right".

That said, trying to make that decision in early December is a recipe for disaster. So many things can change between now and mid-February.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:58 AM   #8
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Te'o isn't Ray Lewis. (Picked 26th overall)

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis. (Picked 11 overall)

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher. (Picked 9th overall)

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson. (Picked 34th overall)

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.

This shows that you need to scout your ILB. There are quality players that can play the position in the late first/early second round. I will shit a brick if we take Te'o.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #9
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If (big IF) Te'o is what they say he is (and not a Notre Dame lust hype by the media) then yes. Provided we use the top of the 2nd on Murray, Wilson, or maybe even Bray. Our LB corps will be next to none. and we still get a QB we can count on panning out well. I've been very encouraged by what Dungy said about Murray and what I saw of him in the Alabama game. Granted I didn't see the entire game. Stat-wise too he compares well with Geno. See attached.
Murray is a legit 6" foot even. He has a strong arm and that offense doesn't do him alot of favors but his upside isn't that high, IMO.


And no, even if Teo is what they say, he isn't worth a top 5 pick. Look around the league at other 34 teams and look who plays the spot he would play here on our D.

You absolutely don't need a great high draft pick guy there to be successful.

And stat wise, Murray isn't close to Geno.
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Value mattered when you were slotting guys at huge amounts of money when they hadn't played a down.


Now, it doesn't matter at all.

But what does matter? Getting a ****ing Qb to lead this team for the next decade.

Which might explain why damn near every redraft has QB's going at the top of every draft.
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Kliff Kingsbury threw 45 TD and 13 INT his senior year playing in the same system...so you never know.
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