Oakland will be more competitive than the Chiefs next year

[In58men]

@AdamSchefter: Oakland preparing for sweeping changes that involve its GM Reggie McKenzie, according to league sources. Mark Davis getting ready to spend.


Those guys get it, we don't. Derek Carr is their QBOTF and again we're still waiting for ours.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He would be a moron to work for Flowbee

[Gravedigger]

I don't know why everyone is afraid of Harbaugh. 9ers aren't making the playoffs, Kaepernick is a mess, the 9ers have turned into the Jets when they had Sanchez. Let him go to Oakland, the amount of rebuilding they still have to do I don't think they'll be a threat next year with or without him.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

He would be a moron to work for Flowbee

He also likes Carr. A lot. Don't act like you wouldn't work for Flowbee if he paid you several million a year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

Harbaugh's first NFL gig was with Al Davis, and he has a soft spot for the Davis family. They would literally hand him the keys and say go. He would be able to stay in the bay and he would basically answer to no one but Mark. As for the remark about coaching turnover, Allen had over two years to show something, and the team actually got worse. Sparano is a stopgap and he has at times been able to get that team to occasionally show some signs of life

If his family is deadset on staying in the Bay, maybe.

But I would have to think Harbaugh knows this is his one shot at Michigan. He'll be in a better situation, have an incredibly stable job, and will get paid an absolute shitload of money to coach there. The NFL will always be there for him.

[Valiant]

Carr has the chance to be great. The problem is that happening in Oakland is as good as the chiefs winning a playoff game. Dont worry, you oakland fans can envy him when he is on the patriots.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Carr has the chance to be great. The problem is that happening in Oakland is as good as the chiefs winning a playoff game. Dont worry, you oakland fans can envy him when he is on the patriots.

Again, you are referring to the old Raiders where no players were developed….Al is gone. The new regime is actually building from the draft and developing. Time will tell if they bring in the right staff today but don`t judge any longer on the "Al" days because he is gone...

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Brock

How does it seem to be over? The last one was like a month and a half ago.

Dennis Allen stayed for 2 1/2 years of his 3 year contract. That is much longer than Al would have kept him. Again, he was just a stop gap coach while the Raiders decimated their roster of high salaries/contracts until Reggie McKenzie got the salary cap in order. Not even Lombardi would have won more games for the Raiders the first 2 years after Al died.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Dennis Allen stayed for 2 1/2 years of his 3 year contract. That is much longer than Al would have kept him. Again, he was just a stop gap coach while the Raiders decimated their roster of high salaries/contracts until Reggie McKenzie got the salary cap in order. Not even Lombardi would have won more games for the Raiders the first 2 years after Al died.

And people call me a homer.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by splatbass

And people call me a homer.

LOL…I am 50 years old so I have been around a little while. The day Al died there were 2 types of Raider fans developed.

1) Al is gone, now we can get a GM and go back to our winning days NOW!!!

2) Al is gone, and for this franchise to truly be great again, we need to sacrifice the overinflated contracts, cut the fat and rebuild through the draft. and this will be a 3-6 year process.

Reggie was hired and his first draft he had no 1 or 2 round picks. In fact if memory serves me correctly, his first pick was a supp pick which was the first of the 4th round. The next year he had a 2nd rounder but parlayed it into 2 3rd rounders.

Good Lord, does anybody see the insanity here? This was caused by Al Davis and Reggie needed to muddle this shit for 2+ years before the Raiders were on a level playing field that rivals the Tampa expansion team.

Yes Reggie blew the FA signings of Flynn and Schaub and others but those contracts were done so that they had no effect on the following years salary cap. Has he made mistakes in FA? Yes, as do ALL GM`s but he has drafted very well.

Yep, I am a Homer……but I see the method in the madness. What Reggie is doing is building very slowly through the draft to have consistent solid football players rather than going for Combine freak track stars and overpriced FA`s. With the right coach and staff, the Raiders might be formidable in the near future while Manning retires and the Doncs go south, Rivers follows to the south, and it is up to the Raiders and Chiefs to battle for the top in the coming years.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by jdubya

LOL…I am 50 years old so I have been around a little while. The day Al died there were 2 types of Raider fans developed.

1) Al is gone, now we can get a GM and go back to our winning days NOW!!!

2) Al is gone, and for this franchise to truly be great again, we need to sacrifice the overinflated contracts, cut the fat and rebuild through the draft. and this will be a 3-6 year process.

Reggie was hired and his first draft he had no 1 or 2 round picks. In fact if memory serves me correctly, his first pick was a supp pick which was the first of the 4th round. The next year he had a 2nd rounder but parlayed it into 2 3rd rounders.

Good Lord, does anybody see the insanity here? This was caused by Al Davis and Reggie needed to muddle this shit for 2+ years before the Raiders were on a level playing field that rivals the Tampa expansion team.

Yes Reggie blew the FA signings of Flynn and Schaub and others but those contracts were done so that they had no effect on the following years salary cap. Has he made mistakes in FA? Yes, as do ALL GM`s but he has drafted very well.

Yep, I am a Homer……but I see the method in the madness. What Reggie is doing is building very slowly through the draft to have consistent solid football players rather than going for Combine freak track stars and overpriced FA`s. With the right coach and staff, the Raiders might be formidable in the near future while Manning retires and the Doncs go south, Rivers follows to the south, and it is up to the Raiders and Chiefs to battle for the top in the coming years.

[jdubya]

Sorry TimBone…Just pointing out that very soon it is between the Raiders and Chiefs for dominance as the Doncs and Chiefs are running out of time this year

[Window Licking Whiner]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

If you can not see he's declining, your ignorance on the sport is glaring.

If by declining you mean home field advantage in every playoff he's been in since going to denver, 1 superbowl appearence, 3 back to back to back playoff appearances, twice considered NFL MVP, and overall pwnage of the Chiefs at home and in Denver...sure I guess he is declining.

Btw that declining quarterback has won more in 3 years then the chiefs have in 40. think about that. If that's declining, then maybe that's what the chiefs need

[Ceej]

I remember when inmen liked the MJD and James Jones signings.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by gopack_vag

If by declining you mean home field advantage in every playoff he's been in since going to denver, 1 superbowl appearence, 3 back to back to back playoff appearances, twice considered NFL MVP, and overall pwnage of the Chiefs at home and in Denver...sure I guess he is declining.

Btw that declining quarterback has won more in 3 years then the chiefs have in 40. think about that. If that's declining, then maybe that's what the chiefs need

Sir? SIR?!

I've got the "declining bag o' shit QB" market covered quite nicely, thank you.

Oh, you meant GOOD "declining" QB...

yeah...

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by gopack_vag

If by declining you mean home field advantage in every playoff he's been in since going to denver, 1 superbowl appearence, 3 back to back to back playoff appearances, twice considered NFL MVP, and overall pwnage of the Chiefs at home and in Denver...sure I guess he is declining.

Btw that declining quarterback has won more in 3 years then the chiefs have in 40. think about that. If that's declining, then maybe that's what the chiefs need

Dumbass