Chiefs How Alex Smith and the Chiefs turned a season around - Page 2

JF08 · 01-06-2016, 12:30 AM

Great article about Smith and the nuanced aspect of his game that is overlooked by many.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/05/n...-2015-playoffs

mcaj22 · 01-06-2016, 07:04 AM

i only have a problem when you guys praise him like he is Trent Greenn or Rich Gannon entering his 30s when he hasnt come close to that yet. also when you act like the Chiefs wouldnt be better with the 10 other QBs in the playoffa not named Alex Smith or Brian Hoyer.

**J Diddy** · 01-06-2016, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

i only have a problem when you guys praise him like he is Trent Greenn or Rich Gannon entering his 30s when he hasnt come close to that yet. also when you act like the Chiefs wouldnt be better with the 10 other QBs in the playoffa not named Alex Smith or Brian Hoyer.

I like Trent. I named my son Trent. What the hell did Trent do besides set the record for most picks in a season?

Alex is the qb of the Chiefs and I will revere him as much. If he leads us to a championship I will revere him in the same manner as Lenny.

Sandy Vagina · 01-06-2016, 07:37 AM

Since 2013, all any of the legit Alex "fans/followers/creeps/lovers" have said about him is that he is a GOOD quarterback that can win plenty of games if his team doesn't suck.

That's it in a nutshell.

You can point to very few random comments of some posters that call him ELITE or such other wild praise. These comments belong to a poster or two with a very low post count. Can we really know they are being legit? or maybe they are just anti-Alex fan mults that know how to create more friction and hate? creating a false generalization that all Alex fans dwell in some realm of insane delusion.

Same as it was, and getting better over time, now that he has Maclin and more time developing with all of the offensive pieces...

Alex is a good QB that will win at a high rate, unless the team around him just sucks, or falls to an epidemic of injury. I'm fine with leaving it at that, instead of forcing him into incredibly muddled and subjective rankings or silly terms like Franchise.

**Mav** · 01-06-2016, 07:47 AM

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**** Alex Smith

Aspengc8 · 01-06-2016, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Since 2013, all any of the legit Alex "fans/followers/creeps/lovers" have said about him is that he is a GOOD quarterback that can win plenty of games if his team doesn't suck.

That's it in a nutshell.

You can point to very few random comments of some posters that call him ELITE or such other wild praise. These comments belong to a poster or two with a very low post count. Can we really know they are being legit? or maybe they are just anti-Alex fan mults that know how to create more friction and hate? creating a false generalization that all Alex fans dwell in some realm of insane delusion.

Same as it was, and getting better over time, now that he has Maclin and more time developing with all of the offensive pieces...

Alex is a good QB that will win at a high rate, unless the team around him just sucks, or falls to an epidemic of injury. I'm fine with leaving it at that, instead of forcing him into incredibly muddled and subjective rankings or silly terms like Franchise.

The only thing that bothers me about Alex is when he misses wide open reads for something that he already made his mind up on. Good example is the first pick from last weeks game. maclin was 1v1 vs the free safety on a deep post.

**Mav** · 01-06-2016, 07:50 AM

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When his followers intimate that he's a Franchise QB which they often do then it becomes delusions of grandeur.

He's too hesitant and plays not to lose, which is the reason he can't keep up with the elite QBs in the league when it's a high scoring game.

Andy Reid has intimated that he is a franchise qb. I have zero say in that matter.

**Mav** · 01-06-2016, 07:55 AM

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who honestly cares about people like that..

It's just a generalization.

Sandy Vagina · 01-06-2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

The only thing that bothers me about Alex is when he misses wide open reads for something that he already made his mind up on. Good example is the first pick from last weeks game. maclin was 1v1 vs the free safety on a deep post.

Yeah, I can understand that. I don't think such decisions are rare for any QB. It's often a gamble to move through reads to go for a deeper shot. My guess is, Alex made a pre-snap decision based on what he expected of the defense. He clearly makes an adjustment pre-snap on this play.

6:27 in 2Q

It was a PA fake.. His eyes hovered initially to the left side of the field. He was trying to get the defenders to bite and clear out from his intended spot.. but they didn't. So as Alex released the ball, he probably cursed and knew it was trouble. He thought that Carrie in the slot on Mac was going to stay on Mac.. but he didn't. He drifted underneath on Wilson while Woodson stayed in single high on Mac running the deep post. (looked like Woodson would have been in good position to contest that deep post)

Not defending it. Alex screwed up by not waiting the extra moment to see Carrie, and then get set to throw to Maclin. Have to say it.. LDT was getting beat by #75 over his outside shoulder, so Alex rushed the decision. This split-second decision was a really poor one on this play.

To be honest.. with this INT and the next.. I think Alex needed to be humbled. He was playing so well up to this point that I think he started getting cocky.. and had to get slapped back down to Earth.

It's not an INT stretch we never see from other QBs. It's just not something we expect to see of Alex. Plays like those should stick in his mind for later use... and I was glad that he didn't crawl into his shell after them.

**ChiefGator** · 01-06-2016, 10:49 AM

Very interesting article... great, long read.

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

It's not an INT stretch we never see from other QBs. It's just not something we expect to see of Alex. Plays like those should stick in his mind for later use... and I was glad that he didn't crawl into his shell after them.

Yep, I said this elsewhere as well.. was so sure we would crawl into a shell after those picks.

Shekelsteinberg · 01-06-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

i only have a problem when you guys praise him like he is Trent Greenn or Rich Gannon entering his 30s when he hasnt come close to that yet. also when you act like the Chiefs wouldnt be better with the 10 other QBs in the playoffa not named Alex Smith or Brian Hoyer.

AKA Sour Grapes.

**Baby Lee** · 01-06-2016, 12:48 PM

The part I try to understand, but try as I might I can't quite, is the people who go ballistic about EVERY LITTLE THING that doesn't go perfectly.

It's like the game is a failure if we don't win 55-0 with 10 sacks.

First off the draw of the game itself is the incessant tension inherent in the rules that keep the game competitive and allow for wild swings in the score and your teams fortunes.

Second, the other team is trying just as hard as our guys. And if it was easy to go 55-0 every game, it would be very boring very quickly. If incessant demolition was the draw, instead of the worlds series, we'd have the all-star home run derby every week on TV.

KCSLC2008 · 01-06-2016, 01:26 PM

Breakdown of the tighter windows Smith has been throwing into and not caving after his two INTs: Arrowhead Pride /2016/1/6/10707090/kansas-city-chiefs-real-super-bowl-contenders-alex-smith-2-0

Arrowhead Pride /2016/1/3/10700154/anatomy-of-a-play-alex-smith-to-jeremy-maclin

A few videos, too.

RobBlake · 01-06-2016, 01:52 PM

You can be a franchise QB and also not be considered "elite". Alex is good enough to QB a team to a superbowl. Rather he does that or not is TBD. Not many "franchise" qbs even make it to the superbowl.

rabblerouser · 01-06-2016, 01:52 PM

I've got to admit, he's really taken charge of the team. That's what he needed, what he was missing all along - that killer instinct. That 'go out and get a TD NOW' mentality. And that was a product of his coaching.

It's about time Andy Reid realized that SOMETHING had to change in order to get a different result

Kudos - I didn't think he had it in him

As of now, Alex Smith is the 2nd best QB in the AFC playoffs, Tom Brady being #1.

Frankenmanning doesn't count, with all the HGH and stem cell shakes blended from aborted human fetuses....

rabblerouser · 01-06-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

You can be a franchise QB and also not be considered "elite". Alex is good enough to QB a team to a superbowl. Rather he does that or not is TBD. Not many "franchise" qbs even make it to the superbowl.

He's better than Jim McMahon, Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, or Brad Johnson ever were.

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JF08 Starter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10005789	How Alex Smith and the Chiefs turned a season around Great article about Smith and the nuanced aspect of his game that is overlooked by many. http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/05/n...-2015-playoffs
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	i only have a problem when you guys praise him like he is Trent Greenn or Rich Gannon entering his 30s when he hasnt come close to that yet. also when you act like the Chiefs wouldnt be better with the 10 other QBs in the playoffa not named Alex Smith or Brian Hoyer.
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Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	The part I try to understand, but try as I might I can't quite, is the people who go ballistic about EVERY LITTLE THING that doesn't go perfectly. It's like the game is a failure if we don't win 55-0 with 10 sacks. First off the draw of the game itself is the incessant tension inherent in the rules that keep the game competitive and allow for wild swings in the score and your teams fortunes. Second, the other team is trying just as hard as our guys. And if it was easy to go 55-0 every game, it would be very boring very quickly. If incessant demolition was the draw, instead of the worlds series, we'd have the all-star home run derby every week on TV. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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KCSLC2008 Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $10005121	Breakdown of the tighter windows Smith has been throwing into and not caving after his two INTs: Arrowhead Pride /2016/1/6/10707090/kansas-city-chiefs-real-super-bowl-contenders-alex-smith-2-0 Arrowhead Pride /2016/1/3/10700154/anatomy-of-a-play-alex-smith-to-jeremy-maclin A few videos, too. Last edited by KCSLC2008; 01-06-2016 at 01:49 PM..
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rabblerouser left blank intentionally Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Belize Nuts Casino cash: $4694897	I've got to admit, he's really taken charge of the team. That's what he needed, what he was missing all along - that killer instinct. That 'go out and get a TD NOW' mentality. And that was a product of his coaching. It's about time Andy Reid realized that SOMETHING had to change in order to get a different result Kudos - I didn't think he had it in him As of now, Alex Smith is the 2nd best QB in the AFC playoffs, Tom Brady being #1. Frankenmanning doesn't count, with all the HGH and stem cell shakes blended from aborted human fetuses.... __________________ MY ADOPT-A-CHIEF : Jody Fortson Jr.
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