Music Would Arrowhead's Toys in the Attic sell today?

**alanm** · 09-16-2015, 05:03 PM

Was bored when I got home and wanted to listen to some music. So I was perusing and saw Arrowsmith's Toys in the Attic amonst the multitudes of CD's. It's been a long time since I listened to this particular album. But I think it still holds up. Yeah it's Bronco week. **** off. Just wondering.Remember I was bored. And maybe feeling a little old.

**Dave Lane** · 09-16-2015, 05:10 PM

No its crap and so are you. Go the **** away

**alanm** · 09-16-2015, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No its crap and so are you. Go the **** away

Well jeez Dave you make me feel so much better.

**Dave Lane** · 09-16-2015, 05:10 PM

OK I was bored too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-16-2015, 05:15 PM

No, it would not sell

Deberg_1990 · 09-16-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, it would not sell

Your probably right.

I will say though, when i introduce my kids to this type of music they end up liking it. Good music is timeless.

**alanm** · 09-16-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, it would not sell

Probably because it wouldn't get any promotional push. Rock has to establish itself again. It's not because there isn't any good music. It's out there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-16-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm

Probably because it wouldn't get any promotional push. Rock has to establish itself again. It's not because there isn't any good music. It's out there.

They wouldn't even get signed today to a major label. I don't care what any of you guys say, rock is dead.

Dead.

It's not being licensed for film and TV, it's not selling albums and it's not selling tours. Even Van Halen can't sell out stadiums anymore and they're relegated to small arenas and amphitheaters.

The young kids and teens are not into guitar driven rock with lyrics about sex and love. They're not. It's a different mindset and a different vibe.

**alanm** · 09-16-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They wouldn't even get signed today to a major label. I don't care what any of you guys say, rock is dead.

Dead.

It's not being licensed for film and TV, it's not selling albums and it's not selling tours. Even Van Halen can't sell out stadiums anymore and they're relegated to small arenas and amphitheaters.

The young kids and teens are not into guitar driven rock with lyrics about sex and love. They're not. It's a different mindset and a different vibe.

I'm not pushing for Arrowsmith specifically. I'm just saying if someone put out a album that sounded totally different than the pablum that is on the radio today. And I refuse to believe that musicanship is a lost art. I see kids playing in the garage in my neighborhood.

Deberg_1990 · 09-16-2015, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm

I'm not pushing for Arrowsmith specifically. I'm just saying if someone put out a album that sounded totally different than the pablum that is on the radio today. And I refuse to believe that musicanship is a lost art. I see kids playing in the garage in my neighborhood.

I hear great music everyday at 'Guitar Center'

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-16-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm

I'm not pushing for Arrowsmith specifically. I'm just saying if someone put out a album that sounded totally different than the pablum that is on the radio today. And I refuse to believe that musicanship is a lost art. I see kids playing in the garage in my neighborhood.

Radio is an indicator of nothing.

Radio exists because of advertising. Advertisers know their market and attempt to sell their products to their target audience. That's why you'll hear different advertising on Classic Rock stations than you will on "Pop" music stations.

Furthermore, there is no direct link between album sales, concert tickets and radio. I used to see songs in heavy rotation in which you'd think the artist sold 10 million records when in fact, they'd not even hit 200,000.

But the bottom line in terms of Aerosmith is that the heyday of that music is long over. Even if Aerosmith put out a record that was better than Toys (which is impossible, especially since they stopped writing their own songs more than 30 years ago), no one would care.

Chromatic · 09-16-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They wouldn't even get signed today to a major label. I don't care what any of you guys say, rock is dead.

Dead.

It's not being licensed for film and TV, it's not selling albums and it's not selling tours. Even Van Halen can't sell out stadiums anymore and they're relegated to small arenas and amphitheaters.

The young kids and teens are not into guitar driven rock with lyrics about sex and love. They're not. It's a different mindset and a different vibe.

Those early nineties though. ****. Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Rollins Band, Megadeth, Melvins, Metallica, Guns N Roses, Soundgarden, Stp, Pantera, plus a lot of the bands from the 70's and 80's in rock and metal were still kicking around.

There's still a lot of guitar driven music that's being being made but it definitively peaked in the early to mid 90's and that time will never come again.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-16-2015, 05:51 PM

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There's still a lot of guitar driven music that's being being made but it definitively peaked in the early to mid 90's and that time will never come again.

Oh, things always come back around. At some point in America (and this is really an American issue, as metal and rock are still strong in Europe & South America), people will begin digging bands and performers than can play their own instruments without the aid of a computer.

It may be another decade but it'll happen.

**Easy 6** · 09-16-2015, 06:09 PM

If rock is dead, its the industries fault.

Not the other way around.

Music media in general seems to be creating its own reality lately, purposely avoiding hard rock of most any kind in favor of soulless cookie cutter pop.

If they were actively searching for and pushing rock acts like they do everything else lately it wouldn't be any less popular than it was 20-30-40 years ago.

**BigRedChief** · 09-16-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They wouldn't even get signed today to a major label. I don't care what any of you guys say, rock is dead.

Dead.

It's not being licensed for film and TV, it's not selling albums and it's not selling tours. Even Van Halen can't sell out stadiums anymore and they're relegated to small arenas and amphitheaters.

The young kids and teens are not into guitar driven rock with lyrics about sex and love. They're not. It's a different mindset and a different vibe.

Rocking out to tunes of sex and love is passe?

09-16-2015, 05:03 PM	Topic Starter
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1816436	Would Arrowhead's Toys in the Attic sell today? Was bored when I got home and wanted to listen to some music. So I was perusing and saw Arrowsmith's Toys in the Attic amonst the multitudes of CD's. It's been a long time since I listened to this particular album. But I think it still holds up. Yeah it's Bronco week. **** off. Just wondering.Remember I was bored. And maybe feeling a little old.
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09-16-2015, 05:10 PM	#2
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	No, it would not sell
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3707775	If rock is dead, its the industries fault. Not the other way around. Music media in general seems to be creating its own reality lately, purposely avoiding hard rock of most any kind in favor of soulless cookie cutter pop. If they were actively searching for and pushing rock acts like they do everything else lately it wouldn't be any less popular than it was 20-30-40 years ago.
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