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Old 04-29-2011, 07:49 PM  
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DE Allen Bailey Miami

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Height: 6-3
Weight: 285
Speed: 4.78
Arm: 34
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 82 1/4
Birthdate: 03/25/1989
Hometown: Sapelo, GA
Grade: 5.67



Notes: Also played basketball as a prep. Highly recruited linebacker-fullback who played just four games as a senior because of a stress fracture in his back. Grew up in the village of Hog Hammock on Sapelo Island, a tiny (approximately 100 residents), remote location 15 miles off the coast of Georgia. Bailey commuted 45 minutes — by ferry, then by bus — to attend school. Spent nights sleeping at a teammate’s house on the mainland during the season. Saw limited action, mostly on special teams, in all 12 games as a true freshman in 2007 and recorded four tackles without a tackle for loss or sack. Tore a pectoral muscle after ’08 spring practice and sat out the season opener against Charleston Southern but started 4-of-13 games at left end and notched 24-9-5. In ’09, started 8-of-13 games — five at left defensive tackle and three at right defensive end — and posted 34-11-7 with two batted passes and two forced fumbles. Started all 13 games at left defensive end in ’10, although he moved inside on some third-down plays, and recorded 45-11-7 with one pass batted down. Team captain.

Positives: Has raw, brute, country strength and is chiseled like a Greek god. Physical marvel. Very strong at the point of attack and can set the edge, push the pocket and anchor vs. the double-team. Almost never gets knocked off the ball and has exceptional two-gap strength. Outstanding energy and effort — runs to the ball. Has a 36-inch vertical jump and good lower-body explosion. Strong tackler. Outstanding character. Highly motivated, hardworking and driven to succeed.

Negatives: Average instincts and awareness. Does not have an arsenal of pass-rush moves and relies too much on the bull rush. Too robotic and mechanical in his movement. Has a tendency to play very upright and struggles to unlock his hips. Lacks an innate feel for the game and is late to react to what he sees. Cannot create one-on-one. Can be more disciplined with his eyes.

Summary: A big, tightly wound, country-strong bookend whose lackluster Senior Bowl performance clearly emphasized a lack of instincts that could drive down his value. Nonetheless, is a physical marvel with rare strength and could be programmed to serve as a fencepost in an odd front. Scheme-diverse and has eventual starter potential as a base end, kicking inside in passing situations, or as a five-technique in a 3-4 front.

NFL projection: Second- to third-round pick.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:13 PM   #76
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I dunno, I guess I thought he'd be bigger. I also don't think he'll be able to wear his #3 in the NFL at the position he plays.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:19 PM   #77
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I think they'll be drafting a NT. Evrybody on here seems sold on Powe and he's projected by most to be there when we pick as late as the 5th. Draft's not over yet.
Everyone is sold on Powe because there was a combine report that Chiefs paid special attention to him.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:20 PM   #78
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I think they'll be drafting a NT. Evrybody on here seems sold on Powe and he's projected by most to be there when we pick as late as the 5th. Draft's not over yet.
I was convinced of this all last year, too.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:54 PM   #79
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Pride of Hog Hammock
By Josh Looney

Allen Bailey - the big man from a tiny island

Having grown up a remote island off the coast of Georgia, Chiefs third-round draft pick Allen Bailey comes from a unique background. The community of Hog Hammock, and its 60-some residents living on Sapelo Island, is what Bailey calls home.

The children of the tiny island take a 45-minute ferry ride into the mainland for school each morning. The majority of household supplies must travel via ferry as well. It’s a route that Bailey knows well.

The island is only 13 miles long and is covered mostly by marshes and trees. It’s a place so remote that the scenery is foreign to even the most versed travelers.

“No one (from the Chiefs scouting department) actually went there,” General Manager Scott Pioli revealed Friday night. “But we talked to some people.”

Coming from a place so secluded, it’s no surprise Bailey was almost completely alone when the Chiefs dialed his number.

“I was actually down the street, taking a walk with my niece when the Chiefs called,” Bailey said from Darien, Georgia moments after being selected 86th overall in the 2011 NFL Draft. “I still haven’t made it back to the house yet, but I’m sure everybody back there is ecstatic.”

Darien is a small town in mainland Georgia located southwest of Hog Hammock. He was off the island Friday night because Hog Hammock doesn’t receive reliable cell phone reception.

It’s amazing that a community so small could produce an athlete so large. Bailey is the pride of an island where everybody knows everyone. But even if Bailey lived in Atlanta, it’s unlikely he’d go unnoticed.

Bailey squats 585 pounds, bench presses 415 pounds and power cleans 405 pounds. His vertical jump is the highest of any Miami player – ever – and, with arms so sculpted, Bailey’s teammates call him “Billy Bicep.”

“He’s a strong player but he’s also explosively strong,” Pioli said. “There are a lot of guys who don’t necessarily have explosion. The other thing he’s got to go with that is he’s got extremely long arms.

“If we get him and keep him in one position because he’s been a guy who’s moved around a bunch of places, if we can get him in one place, keep him there and make use of the tools and teach him the techniques we’re trying to get, he may have a better chance to develop and become more successful.”

For now, the Chiefs plan to use Bailey as a sub-package rusher similar to the role Wallace Gilberry played last season. One of Gilberry’s primary roles consisted of shifting inside when the Chiefs played in nickel sets. Bailey can provide competition at that position as well as others.

Though he’s currently not big enough to play in the Chiefs base defense as nose tackle, Bailey can certainly play along the interior over guards and shift outside to align over tackles as well.

Versatility is one of Bailey’s greatest assets. He played every position on the defensive line over his final three seasons at Miami after beginning his career as an inside linebacker for the Hurricanes.

“Now, in the case of particular players, there are some players who may necessarily be on the surface – and Bailey may be a good example – where he’s a jack of many trades and is perceived as being a master none,” said Pioli. “We, however, think that he may be able to have a chance to be a master at one thing, which is rushing the passer from the inside position, being a good sub-inside rusher.”

Pioli outlined improving the pass rush as one of the Chiefs primary needs heading into draft weekend. Generating that rush extends beyond adding Justin Houston at outside linebacker. In Kansas City’s 3-4 defense, generating pressure is a collective effort from the front seven.

Depending on the role he’s asked to play, Bailey says his frame allows him to gain or lose weight as requested by the Chiefs coaching staff.

In the short-term, Bailey might put on a pound or two back at the island. He’s just become the first NFL player from Hog Hammock. An island-style party is in store.

“There will probably be one, a little get-together, a cookout outside and a bonfire type thing,” Bailey laughed.
Highest vert from Miami EVER and he weighs just under 300lbs?????!!!!
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:05 AM   #80
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Everyone is sold on Powe because there was a combine report that Chiefs paid special attention to him.
Yup, that's why I was a fan.

No.

I like players with range and try to concentrate on guys with the smarts to play this scheme and off the field morals to make the grade.

I based my wants on that.

I don't know. I didn't coach him. I hear Powe is an attack dog. He's not much smarter than that but he's also got the ability to slide down the line and rotate.
He has the talent and ablility (NOT SAYING HE WILL PRODUCE) at the 1 (where he's projected) and the 5 (In spot duty.)

Pioli is all about 1)Range, 2) Talent, 3) Character.

Apparently in that order.

Powe is an angry dog on a leash in this system and if we resign NuT-sNadger and "Part-time" we could rotate him between NT and end.
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:11 AM   #81
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This completely pisses me off because it's perfect.

THIS, YOU egocentric ****, is where you draft a 3-4 DE.

Perfect spot.

On top of that he got GREAT value.

Pioli ****ing whacked it out of the park on day 2.

SO WHY THE **** DID YOU EVER TAKE A 5 TECH IN THE TOP ****ING 10!??
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:33 AM   #82
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Something tells me this guy will turn into the best player we get out of this draft
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:35 AM   #83
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Something tells me this guy will turn into the best player we get out of this draft
The nice thing is, you could say that about any of the guys we got.
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:37 AM   #84
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Something tells me this guy will turn into the best player we get out of this draft
What pisses me off is he could easily push T-Jack to the permanent bench...
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:02 AM   #85
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:58 AM   #86
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Bailey is big strong and talented. Could he be one of those guys who reaches his potential in the NFL?
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:00 AM   #87
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I'm starting to wonder what Bailey's going to be in, say, 2013, whether he'll be a 3-4 end, slim down to be an OLB or bulk up to be a NT. It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:09 AM   #88
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IMHO, all Hurricane players are mentally challenged. They don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer.
They sure do make good pro bowler players.

As for Bailey being mentally challenged that is far from the case. He is a pretty intelligent young man. The fact that he lived on Sapelo Island and lived off the land with his family seems to mean to a lot of people that he is some type of idiot.

I follow the Canes and can tell you at times Bailey fits the bill of looks like Tarzan plays like Jan and at other times he looks like the type of guy that kills gators with a shovel. I have seen him totally dominate games and be totally shut down. He is somewhat of an enigma.

He came to Miami becuase they promised him the chance to be a linebacker. They felt he was a little too stiff and due to injuries moved him to DE then due to more injuries he was asked to play the middle. He never really got a fair shake and under the watch of Randy Shannon most of the Canes players did not get any better. Shannon and his coaching staff did not teach fundementals very well and really hurt the team.

I think if given the chance to work with the NFL guys and get a position he can stay at he will be a hell of a player. He is the type of guy that can rip the arm off a QB and beat them with is and that is what excites me about Bailey.
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