Slimmed-down Chiefs safety Eric Berry starred in 2015, setting up next payday Read m

[O.city]

Terez A. Paylor ‏@TerezPaylor 5m5 minutes ago Indianapolis, IN

Slimmed-down #Chiefs safety Eric Berry starred in 2015, setting up next payday: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...#storylink=cpy …


So, kind of puts to rest the box safety only talk and whether he's worth it, if you follow Louis Riddick.

[O.city]

If your mom played safety for the chiefs, it would be comparable.

What he is as a man adds value to him as a football player, because it effects others around him.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Oh I recall Bowe... I was one of the one's begging for the axe.

Had huge arguments over the value of Dustin Colquitt on this board and another.

It's quite sad and pathetic that emotional attachment plays such a large factor into assessing players on this site. I remember once someone arguing that DJ was better than Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis and that the ILB position is overrated anyways. Stupidity has no limits for many

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

It's quite sad and pathetic that emotional attachment plays such a large factor into assessing players on this site. I remember once someone arguing that DJ was better than Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis and that the ILB position is overrated anyways. Stupidity has no limits for many

Yea because Berry isn't arguably the best safety in he NFL

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Best wishes for your Mom

But stop acting like he just hobbled back in there for a few token appearances in a meaningless feel good story

All Pro in his return, surely still reeling from industrial strength poison treatments... you're too busy looking at dollars to look at football players

This guy is a Ronnie Lott type, he will sell out body and soul to play football... desire and will is worth more than a thousand 40s or bench presses

Dollars have to add up 6. I don't disagree that Berry is a very good football player nor do I disagree about his passion. What I'm saying is that the dollars for the production have to be equal.

I don't care so much about Pro Bowl and All-Pro accolades because they aren't really all that meaningful in the grand scheme. Sure, they look good on a HOF ballot, but the reality is that they are a popularity contest more than anything.

There were several safeties this year that were as good as Eric Berry. I look at Reshad Jones, Marcus Gilchrist, Malcolm Jenkins, Mike Mitchell, Reggie Nelson, Walter Thurmond, Charles Woodson, Mike Adams, Damarious Randall, and so forth and those are some good football players putting up the same type of contribution as Eric Berry. Let's take Randall out because he was a rookie. You look at the rest of those guys and Jones makes 7 per, Gilchrist makes 5.5 per, Jenkins at 5.2 per, Mitchell at 5.0 per, Nelson at 4.5 per, and so on. You start to think, do you need to invest Devin McCourty, Earl Thomas, Jairus Byrd money to get that level of production? You look at Jones and Nelson, those might have been your best two safeties in the NFL in 2015.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by O.city

If your mom played safety for the chiefs, it would be comparable.

What he is as a man adds value to him as a football player, because it effects others around him.

Pretty sure there wasn't a player that improved from 2014 with Berry around, so this subjective measure to boost his pay is a bunch of crap

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Pretty sure no one played better than they did from 2014 with Berry there so this subjective measure to boost is pay is a bunch of crap

Might want to re-write this one to make some sense.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea because Berry isn't arguably the best safety in he NFL

Was arguably and will arguably are two different things. Paying top dollar for a falling stock is a stupid business decision that Pioli would make.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Pretty sure there wasn't a player that improved from 2014 with Berry around, so this subjective measure to boost his pay is a bunch of crap

Might want to check defensive metrics, stats whatever your heart desires before making thay comment.

[O.city]

The pro bowl, yes, popularity.

All pro, not so much

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by O.city

The pro bowl, yes, popularity.

All pro, not so much

Sorry O, I do disagree. All-Pro is voted on by the Associated Press, Pro Football Writers of America, and the Sporting News last I checked. I don't consider media personalities the official authority on how good a football player is. That's my personal opinion though.


Edit: To be clear, I'd consider you to have a better viewpoint on player skill than those clowns.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Might want to check defensive metrics, stats whatever your heart desires before making thay comment.

Good luck adjusting those stats and excluding DJ and Peters' contributions.

[mcaj22]

I've been an advocate supporter of Berry coming back, I figured something similar to his current (large) contract. But 12 million? If that's the case I'd just franchise tag him for a year then let him walk.

[O.city]

I dint think there's any way he gets 12 million anywhere. That's what, 2 million higher than the highest paid safety

[Willie Lanier]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

It's quite sad and pathetic that emotional attachment plays such a large factor into assessing players on this site. I remember once someone arguing that DJ was better than Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis and that the ILB position is overrated anyways. Stupidity has no limits for many

You're kidding right?

EB29 has been nothing short of amazing considering his role in this defense

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by O.city

I dint think there's any way he gets 12 million anywhere. That's what, 2 million higher than the highest paid safety

I wonder if he could get it on the open market. I think he could.