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Old 02-27-2016, 04:40 PM  
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Slimmed-down Chiefs safety Eric Berry starred in 2015, setting up next payday Read m
Terez A. Paylor ‏@TerezPaylor 5m5 minutes ago Indianapolis, IN

Slimmed-down #Chiefs safety Eric Berry starred in 2015, setting up next payday: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...#storylink=cpy …


So, kind of puts to rest the box safety only talk and whether he's worth it, if you follow Louis Riddick.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:06 PM   #16
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When Berry becomes a play-maker, I'll agree with you. At this point, he's a good tackler on the back end. Maybe if he were playing FS full-time it would help some, but Berry hasn't shown the knack for making many big plays thus far. He's solid, I wont' disagree. He's not a guy I'm putting 12 million per on the line for though.
I take it you didn't read the article.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:07 PM   #17
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Irvin is versatile? You mouth breathing reerun.
You realize Pete Carroll has played Irvin at DE, ILB, and OLB? Right? Have you seen Irvin in pass coverage? He is astounding. And he's also capable at getting after the QB. Very underrated as he has has been overshadowed by the bigger names around him.

Even this highlight vid is labeled DE/LB : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAVV5Vb9Okw

Do you even watch football?
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When Berry becomes a play-maker, I'll agree with you. At this point, he's a good tackler on the back end. Maybe if he were playing FS full-time it would help some, but Berry hasn't shown the knack for making many big plays thus far. He's solid, I wont' disagree. He's not a guy I'm putting 12 million per on the line for though.
We still haven't seen the best of Berry. There's no way he peaked last year coming off of chemo/new role and all. You have to assume the next 3-4 years will easily be the best of his career as long as he stays healthy. I think the big plays will come. We saw some flashes of it this year.
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I can't agree.

Berry is more versatile and physical, which really hurt his production as a pass defender because Crennell and Sutton were lining him up in the box.

There's no way that Thomas would have produced at the level he has with Seattle in Kansas City, and he could not have played Berry's role in this defense.

Berry, on the other hand, almost certainly would have matched, if not exceeded, Thomas' production in Seattle.
Milk makes a point here.

Thomas has played behind arguably the best front 7 in the league and great corners. Thats allowed him to be super aggressive in taking chances.

At this point, I think Berry is more versatile, he just doesn't have the flash that Thomas does.
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I take it you didn't read the article.
I read it, what's that have to do with anything I'm saying?
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Milk makes a point here.

Thomas has played behind arguably the best front 7 in the league and great corners. Thats allowed him to be super aggressive in taking chances.

At this point, I think Berry is more versatile, he just doesn't have the flash that Thomas does.
What do you think Berry has played behind? Dog shit?
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I read it, what's that have to do with anything I'm saying?
Riddick talks about him being a FS this past season full time, no?
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Berry is a better run stopper. Thomas is better at being a ball hawk ( no pun intended) as Chancellor is their SS
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What do you think Berry has played behind? Dog shit?
What was the front 7 like he played behind until this year?

There was a reason he was having to come up in the box and make alot of tackles, just as it's no coincidence the year our front 7 has it's best year the secondaries tackles go down.
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Riddick talks about him being a FS this past season full time, no?
Not that I recall. He mentioned "removing the box safety label" or something to that effect. And Berry didn't play FS exclusively this season.
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What do you think Berry has played behind? Dog shit?
Our inside linebackers as a unit are god awful. Poe and Howard have saved us from being bottom of the barrel in run defense
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Should have kept Mays I guess.
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Did i miss this in the article, but where did the 12 million dollar figure come from?
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When Berry becomes a play-maker, I'll agree with you. At this point, he's a good tackler on the back end. Maybe if he were playing FS full-time it would help some, but Berry hasn't shown the knack for making many big plays thus far. He's solid, I wont' disagree. He's not a guy I'm putting 12 million per on the line for though.
Playmakers are put into position to succeed and make plays.

The Seahawks staff does a great job of of putting Thomas into that position to succeed.

Sutton and his staff, not so much.

Berry perform at a high level in spite of Sutton.
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Playmakers are put into position to succeed and make plays.

The Seahawks staff does a great job of of putting Thomas into that position to succeed.

Sutton and his staff, not so much.

Berry perform at a high level in spite of Sutton.
I don't know about that, I think Sutton gets alot of grief around here, some deserved, some not so much.
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