LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?

[BossChief]

Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Only if he earns it.

What Roundup said.

You don't bench a guy you're paying $20m a year that you acquired for two second rounders.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The anti-QB contingent is going to get exactly the franchise they deserve.

[O.city]

So those charts aren't even recent? Jesus

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

What Roundup said.

You don't bench a guy you're paying $20m a year that you acquired for two second rounders.

And there is my major problem. I'm not really killing Reid/Dorsey for not having a replacement for Alex because besides the potential in Bridgewater, they haven't passed on much. The Foles rumor makes me feel better as well. But it's time to try something so that we can put somebody behind Alex to at least push him. It's time they take a bigger swing than Murray.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

And there is my major problem. I'm not really killing Reid/Dorsey for not having a replacement for Alex because besides the potential in Bridgewater, they haven't passed on much. The Foles rumor makes me feel better as well. But it's time to try something so that we can put somebody behind Alex to at least push him. It's time they take a bigger swing than Murray.

Yeah, they might step up to the THIRD ROUND! w00t!

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

The anti-QB contingent is going to get exactly the franchise they deserve.

See, the problem here is that you think that there is an "anti-QB contingent."

There really isn't.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

See, the problem here is that you think that there is an "anti-QB contingent."

There really isn't.

Uh huh.

This thread is proof enough. You need a QB that elevates the play of those around him to contend for titles. Instead people are looking to rookies and possible FA targets to elevate the QB's play.

It's the same things that were said about Cassel... And Huard...

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by O.city

So those charts aren't even recent? Jesus

They were probably from that 8 game stretch he had in 2012, if I had to guess. The guy is a 9er transplant douche so that'd be a safe bet.

I think Alex was 3 for 19 on passes traveling over 20 yards in the air this year, which is horrendous.

Just like the Avery gif they pull out so often, that graph is just what they cling to when they say he can be accurate when passing downfield.

Yes. He can be. He hasn't been 8 years out of his 10 year career but he did it once so there's that!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Only if he earns it.

He didn't earn the two years he's already received.

He's not going anywhere, sadly.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Uh huh.

This thread is proof enough. You need a QB that elevates the play of those around him to contend for titles. Instead people are looking to rookies and possible FA targets to elevate the QB's play.

It's the same things that were said about Cassel... And Huard...

I'd argue that Smith has elevated the play of those around him. Quite easily.

This team, with basically the same starters, went 2-14 in 2013 and set NFL and franchise records for ineptitude. They were, without question, the worst team in football. And it wasn't close.

Yet, that team was comprised of super studs like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert, Dontari Poe, et al.

Within one season, you go from that horrific 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs. Sure, the schedule was a piece of cake, but that's a hell of a turn around in a single season. I believe it actually tied the NFL record for best turnaround in a single season. And what was the singular difference between that season and the previous one? I'll give you a hint:



(And in that playoff game, that new QB sets franchise records for QB playoff performance.)

Then, the next season, when faced with the NFL's toughest schedule, they go 9-7 and on the verge of the playoffs even though they lost four main players to IR.

Tell me that's not elevating the players around you.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'd argue that Smith has elevated the play of those around him. Quite easily.

This team, with basically the same starters, went 2-14 in 2013 and set NFL and franchise records for ineptitude. They were, without question, the worst team in football. And it wasn't close.

Yet, that team was comprised of super studs like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert, Dontari Poe, et al.

Within one season, you go from that horrific 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs. Sure, the schedule was a piece of cake, but that's a hell of a turn around in a single season. I believe it actually tied the NFL record for best turnaround in a single season. And what was the singular difference between that season and the previous one? I'll give you a hint:



(And in that playoff game, that new QB sets franchise records for QB playoff performance.)

Then, the next season, when faced with the NFL's toughest schedule, they go 9-7 and on the verge of the playoffs even though they lost four main players to IR.

Tell me that's not elevating the players around you.

Nope. That was "new car smell" for an already talented roster. Smith only mildly peed in the back seat.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'd argue that Smith has elevated the play of those around him. Quite easily.

This team, with basically the same starters, went 2-14 in 2013 and set NFL and franchise records for ineptitude. They were, without question, the worst team in football. And it wasn't close.

Yet, that team was comprised of super studs like Jamaal Charles, Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert, Dontari Poe, et al.

Within one season, you go from that horrific 2-14 to 11-5 and the playoffs. Sure, the schedule was a piece of cake, but that's a hell of a turn around in a single season. I believe it actually tied the NFL record for best turnaround in a single season. And what was the singular difference between that season and the previous one? I'll give you a hint:



(And in that playoff game, that new QB sets franchise records for QB playoff performance.)

Then, the next season, when faced with the NFL's toughest schedule, they go 9-7 and on the verge of the playoffs even though they lost four main players to IR.

Tell me that's not elevating the players around you.

Matt Cassel / Tyler Palko / Kyle Orton went 7-9 with Thomas Jones and Jackie Battle at HB, Jake O'Connell at tight end, Bowe and Baldwin at WR with a defense that started Jon McGraw and Sabby Piscatelli at safety.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Nope. That was "new car smell" for an already talented roster. Smith only mildly peed in the back seat.

The defense went from complete ass to playing at a historic level for 9 of the 11 wins in 2013, but it was Captain Mormon's doing.

Comical.

[RealSNR]

Is Smith actually Mormon?

Asking for a friend.

[Simply Red]

do you think Smith ever literally pee'd in his lady friend's butt? srs question.