Cap casualty season: Here are some likely big-name victims

[RustShack]

I feel like Kolb, Flynn, Hasselback and even Vick would make more sense for KC than Smith. We probably will try to sign one if the contract is right... But we are still drafting our franchise QB too.

[PaulAllen]

We don't need a veteran stopgap. No on any of those qbs

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

We don't need a veteran stopgap. No on any of those qbs

Yes, we need one. If the franchise QB isn't ready, you don't throw him out there and break him mentally. You don't just hand him the job. He has to work for it and learn from the veteran. If franchise QB shows he's ready to start week one, great. Start him then. But it would be beyond stupid not to sign a veteran.

[PaulAllen]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Yes, we need one. If the franchise QB isn't ready, you don't throw him out there and break him mentally. You don't just hand him the job. He has to work for it and learn from the veteran. If franchise QB shows he's ready to start week one, great. Start him then. But it would be beyond stupid not to sign a veteran.

No, it's not.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

No, it's not.

So you plan on having three rookies? Or two rookies and Stanzi? You're a complete moron if you don't think a smart QB coach like Reid isn't going to bring in a veteran that can run his system to help start things in KC.

[PaulAllen]

Originally Posted by RustShack

So you plan on having three rookies? Or two rookies and Stanzi? You're a complete moron if you don't think a smart QB coach like Reid isn't going to bring in a veteran that can run his system to help start things in KC.

You don't need a washed up has been if you have your guy. Why bench the future?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

We don't need a veteran stopgap. No on any of those qbs

The hell we don't. Contrary to popular belief around these parts, Geno Smith is not Andrew Luck caliber. He is not RG3 either. He is not going to come in here as a rookie and just play lights out on fire. He's going to struggle if he starts immediately. Just about everyone from this draft class will. If we don't have a stopgap in case that happens, we're going to be in for a long season, that is unless Ricky Stanzi ends up being the golden god and delivers us from evil.

[RealSNR]

If Hasselbeck wanted to play backup for one or two years to finish out his career, how the hell could you say no to that? He's more than capable of playing a few games here and there if he needs to. Most importantly, he's old and experienced (and didn't suck for most of his career like Huard). We haven't had that kind of QB on our roster since Trent Green.

Geno + Hasselbeck. Draft some bukkake 6th round rookie, have him compete with Stanzi, and let's get this ****ing show on the road.

Oh, and when Hasselbeck retires, you draft another QB in the 3rd/4th round in another year.

[RustShack]

Reid didn't trot McNabb right out, and same with Kolb or Foles. Dorsey didn't trot Rodgers right out. We are more than likely going to see someone experienced in the WCO starting week one as our franchise guy gets ready to take over. If its a Wilson beating out Flynn week one situation there is no downfall at all to having that backup option still.

[Joe Seahawk]

I'd like to see the Seahawks pick up Paul Kruger..

[PaulAllen]

We're going to be in for a long season no matter what. This franchise isn't going to get fixed overnight. Don't make it harder than it has to be

[PaulAllen]

Is Geno Smith Russell Wilson caliber? Joe Flacco caliber? Matt Ryan caliber? All those guys started their first pro games.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Is Geno Smith Russell Wilson caliber? Joe Flacco caliber? Matt Ryan caliber? All those guys started their first pro games.

No. He's way more raw than those guys.

[PaulAllen]

Originally Posted by RustShack

No. He's way more raw than those guys.

That means he needs to play. Play him. I don't care if we go 1 and 15. What was Peyton Mannings rookie season record again?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

We're going to be in for a long season no matter what. This franchise isn't going to get fixed overnight. Don't make it harder than it has to be

We are one position away from being a competitor in this division, that much is true. If Alex Smith could play to the caliber here under Reid that he played under Harbaugh, we'd be divisional champs year in and year out. That's how close this team is, in all actuality. And I don't even think Smith is that great of a QB. But he sure as **** is better than Cassel, and his play over the last two years has been fantastic.

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

You try your best and if it doesn't work out, you move on. Alex Smith and Matt Hasselbeck are not the answer, everybody knows this.

If everybody knew this, KC wouldn't be the frontrunner for the Alex Smith landing site. The only thing that will stop him from landing here, is if he is absolutely deadset on being the starter and not having to "compete" for the job against a first or second round draft pick.

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Is Geno Smith Russell Wilson caliber? Joe Flacco caliber? Matt Ryan caliber? All those guys started their first pro games.

Nothing bothers me more than hearing people talk about Russell Wilson like he's some kind of god. Lets let the kid play a bit more and see if he ends up being as good as he played down the stretch. Andrew Luck did more with a much shittier team, and Russel did it on a very, very talented roster with great coaching and a very soft division.


As for the rest of your quote, nobody will know until it happens, but all signs seem to be pointing at the entirety of this draft class needing time to develop and grow into capable starters. There are a few exceptions to this rule, such as Tyler Wilson, and perhaps Glennon/Nassib, though neither of those two have shown anything since the resolution of their seasons to even write him about.

I think Geno has a very good toolset to work with, but I believe that is going to take some time and patience to develop and cultivate here in Kansas City.

I foresee this playing out like Vince Young in his rookie season. He didn't start immediately, but there were no doubts in that organization that he would eventually start. The only question was "when".

To be honest, Geno has a few question marks, but to counter them, he has some very good positive marks to speak of. What makes this case better for him, is that those positive marks fit very well into a WCO, and very well into an Andy Reid WCO. In my opinion, we are going to need a veteran QB to come in here and start a few games to get the season rolling while we get Geno on track, after that, his job is to be ready in case Geno goes down, and keep this team functioning, unlike QBs of the past for us, save for Damon Huard.