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Old 04-02-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
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It's an over-reaction.

The Chiefs have not signed Alex Smith long-term. They have not passed on any QBs in the draft yet. They have not made any indication that they refuse to find a young QB to groom behind Smith with the intention of him being the long-term starter.

If Alex Smith is the best QB we come up with over the next 3 years, and it's because we didn't try, then yes. If he's a stopgap for a year or 2, I really could care less how many picks we gave up.
They shit their pants trading for this bum. They paid way too much for him.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:56 PM   #2
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They shit their pants trading for this bum. They paid way too much for him.
Without knowing their intention for Alex Smith, you can't say this.

Based on a lot of the moves the Chiefs made, it's seems like Reid/Dorsey got the directive that they need to start winning games fast and getting Arrowhead jumping again. If that's the directive, then Smith is the best choice for that. BUt that does not mean they are committed to Alex Smith as their long term QBOTF.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:06 PM   #3
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I'm good so far, not great.

Too much to pay for Alex Smith, but if they can get out of #1 to recoup the cost that's a big win. NOBODY sees a legit QBOTF in this draft folks, but i'm in the camp we definitely need to try for a potential guy in 2nd or 3rd (this assumes we can move out of #1).

Most of the other FA moves are positive, not spectacular. Filled and upgraded most every hole, and nobody seriously overpaid, so that's solid!
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:18 PM   #4
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meh ... talent level looks remarkably like it did last year.


The cornerback position is the only place where i see any significant improvement.


Cross your fingers and hope that coaching makes a big difference
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:12 PM   #5
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meh ... talent level looks remarkably like it did last year.


The cornerback position is the only place where i see any significant improvement.


Cross your fingers and hope that coaching makes a big difference
No improvement from the qb position? That's a bunch of shit.

By merely removing Cassel and Quinn and their turnover tendencies and replacing them with someone who doesn't turn it over is a huge difference.

Why do we have to hope this staff is an upgrade? Anyone with a pulse and who's watched at least a weekend of football knows it is.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #6
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No improvement from the qb position? That's a bunch of shit.

By merely removing Cassel and Quinn and their turnover tendencies and replacing them with someone who doesn't turn it over is a huge difference.

Why do we have to hope this staff is an upgrade? Anyone with a pulse and who's watched at least a weekend of football knows it is.
That doesn't register. It is perfectly logical, I pointed it out that no matter if alex smith doesn't throw for more than 20 tds, as long as he doesn't turn the ball over 38 times which your qbs did last year that its an upgrade, and will upgrade the defense, the offense and the special teams because you wont constantly be in horrible field position because of a turn over.

People want high lights. That's all they care about. They want the aerial show, even though the super bowl winning qb last year, threw 28 tds, and less than 4000 yards.......
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:47 PM   #7
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That doesn't register. It is perfectly logical, I pointed it out that no matter if alex smith doesn't throw for more than 20 tds, as long as he doesn't turn the ball over 38 times which your qbs did last year that its an upgrade, and will upgrade the defense, the offense and the special teams because you wont constantly be in horrible field position because of a turn over.

People want high lights. That's all they care about. They want the aerial show, even though the super bowl winning qb last year, threw 28 tds, and less than 4000 yards.......
So a game manager.

In a QB-driven league where teams are moving to spread, the best QBs are throwing for 5,000 yards, and the top QBs are responsible for the majority of Super Bowl wins, our formula is for a 3,000 yard QB that wins with the running game and defense?

I am fine with Alex Smith as a stop gap. He's not a long-term answer. I don't give a shit how many yards Flacco threw for in 2012. He won the Super Bowl because in the playoffs, he was making throws that only elite QBs make.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:57 PM   #8
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So a game manager.

In a QB-driven league where teams are moving to spread, the best QBs are throwing for 5,000 yards, and the top QBs are responsible for the majority of Super Bowl wins, our formula is for a 3,000 yard QB that wins with the running game and defense?

I am fine with Alex Smith as a stop gap. He's not a long-term answer. I don't give a shit how many yards Flacco threw for in 2012. He won the Super Bowl because in the playoffs, he was making throws that only elite QBs make.
If that is the feeling you have, and I could see that if I looked at the stats. I watched every single Ravens down in the playoffs. He more or less, threw it up, like say against Denver, and his receivers made plays.......

Yes, he was phenomenal in the playoffs. 11 tds, and 0 picks. Impressive. He still by the letter of the law, was a game manager that relied on Ray Rice, and his defense in the regular season.......

Did he not? It takes a complete team around your FRANCHISE qb to win. The chiefs have a pretty decent team around Alex Smith now.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:44 PM   #9
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I'm liking the new staff. I like that they want to start winning now, they went out and invested.

I think Alex Smith was by far the best option and every day branden albert opens his mouth, this staff looks sharper.

I would like Geno because he is the best QB in this draft, but I'm okay with them going with another QB later in this draft -- to me, the important move is to get QB's in here now so that the young QB's can begin growing in this offense and competing for the starting QB position asap.

I'm very happy they let the worst starter on this roster walk -- Glenn Dorsey has impeded this team for years.

I like the CB moves very much -- the more smith's on this roster, the better

Right now, I grade the new staff at a solid "B" and I expect this team to win at least 9 games 2013.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:15 PM   #13
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:19 PM   #15
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