MU ****Official 2013-14 Missouri Tiger Football Repository Thread**** - Page 150

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01:02 PM

We have two things to look forward to this year:

1) The potential beginning of the Maty Mauk Era. Mauk represents the best chance for this program to get back to a level of respectability after horrendous QB play cost us multiple games last year.

2) The last year of the Gary Pinkel era. Pinkel's entrenched cronyism won't play in a conference this competitive, especially if he couples his abysmal gameday coaching with lackadaisical, worst-in-conference recruiting. Pinkel was the formerly adequate meal that has now turned into a four pound bowel obstruction. It's time to jam a Fleet's enema up our collective asses.

Here is the schedule. We dodge Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the west and the Non-con is decidedly weaker than years past.

8/31: Murray State
9/7: Toledo
9/21: @ Indiana
9/28: Arkansas State
10/5:@ Vanderbilt
10/12: @ Georgia
10/19:Florida
10/26: South Carolina
11/2:Tennessee
11/9: @ Kentucky
11/23: @ Ole Miss
11/30: aTm

Looks like 6-6. Undefeated in non-con, 2-6 in league play.

I will eventually update the OP with a list of high profile in-state recruits that decide to go elsewhere after a half-assed attempt to gain their services. The inevitable cavalcade of *** rejects, skeezers, skanks, and scalliwags we get will fill out the ranks.

Razors, cyanide capsules, and Jonestown Kool-Aid are available in the break room. Second door on the left.

Since every Mizzou thread eventually dies of AIDS, I recommend starting anti-retroviral therapy immediately. I believe Walgreens covers Express Scripts.

Premium In-State Players:

Roderick Johnson: **** OT, Florissant, MO.
Monte Harrison: **** WR, Lee's Summit, MO.
Jimmy Swain: **** LB, Lee's Summit, MO

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-24-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

He was as big or bigger of a prospect than Lucas Vincent, whom you included.

Notice that all the guys I included are currently playing for the team right now.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:20 PM

Check out 2009. Our two stars outperformed our three, four, and five stars.

Not sure what it means, but it's interesting.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/missouri/foo...09/missouri-22

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Notice that all the guys I included are currently playing for the team right now.

Cool. I'm not arguing...just thinking of local kids.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Laurence Maroney pops to mind.

What was his deal? He didn't seem to have much of an offer list.

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2013, 05:23 PM

Baseline? Nah. But it's a good goal.

I have a hard time seeing any class worse than that class as a 'bad' class, but any class better than that one would be a truly outstanding one for us.

2010 should be the goal but coming up short of that isn't a disaster. 2013, however, can't happen again. I still throw up a little bit every time I see that recruit list. I like some of the kids in there, but man the ceiling is just so low.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Baseline? Nah. But it's a good goal.

I have a hard time seeing any class worse than that class as a 'bad' class, but any class better than that one would be a truly outstanding one for us.

2010 should be the goal but coming up short of that isn't a disaster. 2013, however, can't happen again. I still throw up a little bit every time I see that recruit list. I like some of the kids in there, but man the ceiling is just so low.

When I say baseline, I mean without the benefit of hindsight. That class, in terms of national ranking at the time, was good but not great by any means. Obviously it has far outperformed its ranking, though.

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I don't see a problem for us in attracting in-state 4* or 5* recruits. When we produce kids of that caliber, we sure seem to get our fair share of them, especially when we are playing well.

I am more down on the MO prep talent than others in this thread. We do poorly in St. Louis, yet I can't remember too many St. Louis "misses" (other than Montee Ball) that went on to do much of anything in college.

If anything, I think we need to focus more attention on Illinois. That state produces 5-8 4* kids a year. We should pick off a few of those kids every year.

I definitely agree regarding Illinois.

The move to the SEC should've helped us make inroads into Illinois as much as anywhere, but I don't think we're really focusing our efforts there.

Snagging a few 4* guys that want to go play 'Bama, Florida, LSU and Georgia (and get on TV several times/yr) shouldn't be hard when they grew up a couple hundred miles from campus.

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

When I say baseline, I mean without the benefit of hindsight. That class, in terms of national ranking at the time, was good but not great by any means. Obviously it has far outperformed its ranking, though.

That ended up a top 15 class, didn't it?

Mizzou should be able to pull top 25 classes year in, year out, IMO. If they can't, they've done something wrong.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That ended up a top 15 class, didn't it?

Mizzou should be able to pull top 25 classes year in, year out, IMO. If they can't, they've done something wrong.

I think it was in the 15-20 range. That's where we should be on average. 25 in a down year, 10 in a good year...

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:29 PM

Rivals had it 21st.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:30 PM

USC, Texas, Cal, Tennessee, etc. sure don't have much to show for that class.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecr...k/2010/all/all

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I think it was in the 15-20 range. That's where we should be on average. 25 in a down year, 10 in a good year...

Well I was going to strongly disagree with you here until I saw that Mizzou ranked about 40th (both in terms of overall strength and average stars) in 2013 and that still seems like a total disaster to me.

I'd probably just be arguing over about 5 spots one direction or the other.

Yeah, I can get behind that general goal.

**Saul Good** · 10-24-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well I was going to strongly disagree with you here until I saw that Mizzou ranked about 40th (both in terms of overall strength and average stars) in 2013 and that still seems like a total disaster to me.

I'd probably just be arguing over about 5 spots one direction or the other.

Yeah, I can get behind that general goal.

The thing is, that class had potential until Gary gave them 50 different ways to negative recruit, and our commits started flipping left and right.

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2013, 05:36 PM

Boy it is interesting, though - most years there are about 10 schools that just knock it out of the damn park.

From 11 to 30 or so, they're all pretty jumbled up - a single player could move you 5 spots forward or backwards very easily.

We're probably not going to be one of the HR hitters, but yeah, being in that 2nd tier of schools along with damn near everyone else that we'll compete with annually seems like a fine goal.

Even if you don't think it yields success, it does give insight into the perception of your school among the people you're trying to impress. If you can't bring talent in here, there's something wrong with the program.

DJ's left nut · 10-24-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The thing is, that class had potential until Gary gave them 50 different ways to negative recruit, and our commits started flipping left and right.

Yup. I remember how excited we were about the 2013 class.

Then August came and the whole damn thing just imploded. Man what a shitshow that turned into. By February I just wanted it to be over before we lost any of the remaining commits we had. Then it carried over into the 2014 class when we started losing early verbals as well.

It really was a shitty few months there, wasn't it? In the end, keeping Printz was a minor miracle (even if I think he's doomed to the Chase Patton role as Mauk's backup until the next kid comes along and laps him as a senior).

10-24-2013, 05:20 PM	#2237
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Check out 2009. Our two stars outperformed our three, four, and five stars. Not sure what it means, but it's interesting. http://rivals.yahoo.com/missouri/foo...09/missouri-22 __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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10-24-2013, 05:23 PM	#2240
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2969099	Baseline? Nah. But it's a good goal. I have a hard time seeing any class worse than that class as a 'bad' class, but any class better than that one would be a truly outstanding one for us. 2010 should be the goal but coming up short of that isn't a disaster. 2013, however, can't happen again. I still throw up a little bit every time I see that recruit list. I like some of the kids in there, but man the ceiling is just so low. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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10-24-2013, 05:29 PM	#2245
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Rivals had it 21st. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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10-24-2013, 05:30 PM	#2246
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	USC, Texas, Cal, Tennessee, etc. sure don't have much to show for that class. http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecr...k/2010/all/all __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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10-24-2013, 05:36 PM	#2249
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2969099	Boy it is interesting, though - most years there are about 10 schools that just knock it out of the damn park. From 11 to 30 or so, they're all pretty jumbled up - a single player could move you 5 spots forward or backwards very easily. We're probably not going to be one of the HR hitters, but yeah, being in that 2nd tier of schools along with damn near everyone else that we'll compete with annually seems like a fine goal. Even if you don't think it yields success, it does give insight into the perception of your school among the people you're trying to impress. If you can't bring talent in here, there's something wrong with the program. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 60,466