Chiefs Clark Judge: Chiefs can't afford to take quarterback with first pick of draft - Page 7

Marco Polo · 02-14-2013, 11:07 AM

Cover of cbssports.com:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...-pick-of-draft

With two months to go before commissioner Roger Goodell steps to the lecturn to open the NFL draft, I have a prediction: The Kansas City Chiefs don't choose a quarterback with the first pick.

Yeah, I know, they need one like L.A. needs mass transit, and they'd take one if there were an Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford available.

But there's not.
In fact, there's nobody even close, and if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day -- namely, that if he were in this year's draft he'd be the No. 1 choice.

That should tell you something about the field. It should also tell you what the Chiefs' first move should be -- namely, anywhere but quarterback.

With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years.

So tell me which of these guys fits that description: Geno Smith? Matt Barkley? Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray? All have holes in their games, and none is worth choosing with the first, second or third picks.

So that makes Kansas City's options easy: Either stay where you are and choose the best player -- a pass rusher, maybe, or a left tackle -- or find your quarterback with a later choice. The bottom line is that the Chiefs must be true to their board, choosing the guy at the top ... and I can't imagine any of these quarterbacks is anywhere near there.

In fact, one guy I trust who studied this class of quarterbacks thinks it's so underwhelming he's not sure there's a legit first-rounder in there.

I'm serious.

That doesn't mean there won't be a quarterback taken in the first round. Of course there will. There will be more than one. It's a passing league, and clubs that don't have good, young quarterbacks can't wait to get their hands on one. So they reach, just as teams did in the 2011 draft when four quarterbacks went with the first 12 picks, leaving Andy Dalton to Cincinnati in the second round.

Dalton is the only quarterback in that class to make the playoffs his first two seasons, and there's a lesson there for Kansas City: Don't overdraft the position.

"We never reached (when I was at Dallas) -- except for one time," said former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt. "We were supposed to take Joe Montana (in the third round of the 1979 draft), but we had three veteran quarterbacks, and (then coach) Tom Landry said, 'I can't carry four quarterbacks.' So we took Doug Cosbie instead."

Cosbie was a decent tight end who was named to three Pro Bowls, but Montana was a Hall-of-Fame quarterback who won four Super Bowls.

Everyone knows the Chiefs need someone to replace Matt Cassel, but not with the first pick of the 2013 draft they don't. They can find one by trading out and moving down or by staying put and choosing a quarterback at the top of the second round, much as San Diego did in 2001. Instead of taking Michael Vick with the first selection, the Bolts that year traded the pick to Atlanta, then tapped running back LaDainian Tomlinson with the pick acquired from the Falcons and quarterback Drew Brees at the top of the second round.

The problem for Kansas City is that it chose the wrong year to bottom out. The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices. It's not just that they were the two best quarterbacks out there; it's that they were at or near the top of everyone's boards. So Indianapolis took the best player in the draft; Washington took the second best, and that's the way it's supposed to go.

Which means you can scratch Kansas City from choosing a quarterback with the first pick for one very important reason: That player should be the best player in the draft, and there's not a quarterback who qualifies.

Sorter · 02-14-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Buddy Nix, the Buffalo GM, is absolutely IN LOVE with Glennon's arm.

I could see him going right then and there.

I could too. I think that Glennon's a good fit for Norv's offense and the Browns take him ahead of Buffalo.

**Easy 6** · 02-14-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Clark Judge: "Damon Huard is better than Trent Green"

Nothing he says has merit after that bullshit.

Whoooa, he actually said that?

If so, he should've been fired immediately.

ndws · 02-14-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Albert passed a complete physical already.

You so ready to see them gone that you'd use the #1 pick on a guy that's basically THE SAME? That makes no sense.

I'm simply saying that I think he could be a good player. Better than Dorsey or Jackson. If you want to call them the same, I'm not getting into a pissing contest over it. I simply don't see it that way.

And I'm not pandering for him to be the #1 overall. I'm simply saying...and God forbid Geno isn't the be-all savior of the world, that if a QB isn't taken 1st overall and we can't trade out, I wouldn't jump off a cliff if he's selected.

WhiteWhale · 02-14-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Whoooa, he actually said that?

If so, he should've been fired immediately.

Judge was one of those dipshits leading the national media charge to bench Green.

The unfortunate thing is that so many dipshit chiefs fans agreed with him. You won't find one that admits to it now though....

BlackHelicopters · 02-14-2013, 05:54 PM

Yes! Another QB THREAD.

Sorter · 02-14-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Yes! Another QB THREAD.

You really enjoy whining.

keg in kc · 02-14-2013, 06:46 PM

Why in the world would anyone write this article before the combine and pro-days? It's like he's never paid attention to an NFL offseason, or seen quarterbacks shoot up the boards late, after being labeled as questionable.

Brock · 02-14-2013, 06:52 PM

There is no player in this draft worth the number one overall. You may as well reach for your QB. As I was saying last night, if Clowney was allowed to come out, it's a game changer.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-14-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Judge was one of those dipshits leading the national media charge to bench Green.

The unfortunate thing is that so many dipshit chiefs fans agreed with him. You won't find one that admits to it now though....

Green should have been benched. Huard was clearly the better option at that point.

Green should have lost his job in KC. Period.

A Salt Weapon · 02-14-2013, 08:37 PM

Wow, this guy is ****ing reeruned.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 02-14-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

Wow, this guy is ****ing reeruned.
Posted via Mobile Device

Well, according to about a dozen Chiefsplanet members, EVERY national columnist is reeruned.

B14ckmon · 02-14-2013, 08:44 PM

If Clowney sued the league and got eligible, I would do everything in my power to help the Chiefs get Geno.

keg in kc · 02-14-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, according to about a dozen Chiefsplanet members, EVERY national columnist is reeruned.

So what you're saying is that only a dozen of us read every national columnist.

O.city · 02-14-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

If Clowney sued the league and got eligible, I would do everything in my power to help the Chiefs get Geno.

Yeah, by giving us your first this year, second this year, first and third next year and another first.

Hammock Parties · 02-14-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, according to about a dozen Chiefsplanet members, EVERY national columnist is reeruned.

Peter King and Clark Judge write a lot of ****ing bullshit.

They're both too busy stroking off their sources within the league.

BOTH OF THEM were deep throating Pioli and Cassel for YEARS.

02-14-2013, 11:07 AM
Marco Polo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W Casino cash: $5708908	Clark Judge: Chiefs can't afford to take quarterback with first pick of draft Cover of cbssports.com: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...-pick-of-draft With two months to go before commissioner Roger Goodell steps to the lecturn to open the NFL draft, I have a prediction: The Kansas City Chiefs don't choose a quarterback with the first pick. Yeah, I know, they need one like L.A. needs mass transit, and they'd take one if there were an Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford available. But there's not. In fact, there's nobody even close, and if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day -- namely, that if he were in this year's draft he'd be the No. 1 choice. That should tell you something about the field. It should also tell you what the Chiefs' first move should be -- namely, anywhere but quarterback. With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years. So tell me which of these guys fits that description: Geno Smith? Matt Barkley? Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray? All have holes in their games, and none is worth choosing with the first, second or third picks. So that makes Kansas City's options easy: Either stay where you are and choose the best player -- a pass rusher, maybe, or a left tackle -- or find your quarterback with a later choice. The bottom line is that the Chiefs must be true to their board, choosing the guy at the top ... and I can't imagine any of these quarterbacks is anywhere near there. In fact, one guy I trust who studied this class of quarterbacks thinks it's so underwhelming he's not sure there's a legit first-rounder in there. I'm serious. That doesn't mean there won't be a quarterback taken in the first round. Of course there will. There will be more than one. It's a passing league, and clubs that don't have good, young quarterbacks can't wait to get their hands on one. So they reach, just as teams did in the 2011 draft when four quarterbacks went with the first 12 picks, leaving Andy Dalton to Cincinnati in the second round. Dalton is the only quarterback in that class to make the playoffs his first two seasons, and there's a lesson there for Kansas City: Don't overdraft the position. "We never reached (when I was at Dallas) -- except for one time," said former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt. "We were supposed to take Joe Montana (in the third round of the 1979 draft), but we had three veteran quarterbacks, and (then coach) Tom Landry said, 'I can't carry four quarterbacks.' So we took Doug Cosbie instead." Cosbie was a decent tight end who was named to three Pro Bowls, but Montana was a Hall-of-Fame quarterback who won four Super Bowls. Everyone knows the Chiefs need someone to replace Matt Cassel, but not with the first pick of the 2013 draft they don't. They can find one by trading out and moving down or by staying put and choosing a quarterback at the top of the second round, much as San Diego did in 2001. Instead of taking Michael Vick with the first selection, the Bolts that year traded the pick to Atlanta, then tapped running back LaDainian Tomlinson with the pick acquired from the Falcons and quarterback Drew Brees at the top of the second round. The problem for Kansas City is that it chose the wrong year to bottom out. The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices. It's not just that they were the two best quarterbacks out there; it's that they were at or near the top of everyone's boards. So Indianapolis took the best player in the draft; Washington took the second best, and that's the way it's supposed to go. Which means you can scratch Kansas City from choosing a quarterback with the first pick for one very important reason: That player should be the best player in the draft, and there's not a quarterback who qualifies.
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