News Minnesota man who killed teens in break-in charged with murder - Page 47

NIUhuskies · 11-27-2012, 04:56 PM

wow, this sounds pretty messed up... Cant tell if his guy is nuts or if these kids were on drugs

By NBC News staff and wire services

A 64-year-old Minnesota man was charged Monday with murder for killing two teenagers who he said broke into his Little Falls home, shooting them in the head, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

AP file

Byron David Smith was arrested after he told police he shot and killed two teenagers who he said were breaking into his home on Thanksgiving Day.

"If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again," Byron David Smith of Little Falls told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.

Smith was charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Haile Kifer, 18, and her cousin, Nicholas Brady, 17, both of Little Falls. The teens were shot on Thanksgiving Day, but their deaths weren't reported until Friday.
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Brady has also used the name Schaeffel, which is his mother’s maiden name, at times for family reasons, according to the sheriff's office.

In the criminal complaint, Smith said he was in the basement of his remote home about 10 miles southwest of Little Falls when he heard a window breaking upstairs, followed by footsteps that eventually approached the basement stairwell. Fearful after several break-ins, according to the complaint, Smith said he fired when Brady came into view from the waist down.

After the teen fell down the stairs, Smith said he shot him in the face as he lay on the floor.

"I want him dead," the complaint quoted Smith telling an investigator.

Smith said he dragged Brady's body into his basement workshop, then sat back down on his chair, and after a few minutes Kifer began coming down the stairs. He said he shot her as soon as her hips appeared, and she fell down the steps.

Smith said he tried to shoot her again with his Mini 14 rifle, but that the gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him.

"Smith stated that it was not a very long laugh because she was already hurting," according to the complaint.

Smith said he then shot Kifer in the chest several times with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to Brady, and with her still gasping for air, fired a shot under her chin "up into the cranium."

"Smith described it as 'a good clean finishing shot,'" according to the compliant, but also that he acknowledged he had fired "more shots than (he) needed to."

The following day he asked a neighbor to recommend a good lawyer, according to the complaint. He later asked his neighbor to call the police.

A prosecutor called Smith's reaction "appalling."

"Mr. Smith intentionally killed two teenagers in his home in a matter that goes well beyond self-defense," Morrison County Attorney Brian Middendorf said after Smith appeared at Morrison County District Court on Monday morning. Bail was set at $2 million.

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Minnesota law allows a homeowner to use deadly force on an intruder if a reasonable person would fear they're in danger of harm. Smith told investigators he was afraid the intruders might have a weapon.

Smith's actions "sound like an execution" rather than legitimate self-defense, said David Pecchia, executive director of the Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association. Pecchia said his statements to investigators suggest he had eliminated any threat to his safety by wounding the cousins.

Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, told the Star Tribune of Minneapolis that the incident was the eighth burglary at Byron Smith's home in recent years.

The only report the Morrison County sheriff's office has for a break-in at the home was for one on Oct. 27. It shows Byron Smith reported losing cash and gold coins worth $9,200, plus two guns worth $200 each, photo equipment worth more than $3,000 and a ring worth $300.

Little Falls is about 100 miles northwest of Minneapolis.

Brady's sister, Crystal Schaeffel, told the Star Tribune that Kifer had broken into her home before. Little Falls police records show Crystal Schaeffel reported a theft Aug. 28, but the department said the report was not public because that investigation was continuing and because it named juveniles.

Tessa Ruth, an aunt of Brady, attended Smith's hearing. She told the Star Tribune she wished the man had fired a warning shot or alerted the police instead of shooting the teens.

"It wasn't right for them to be there and, yes, he had a right to defend himself. But to execute them like that..."

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rabblerouser · 01-21-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

It's worth a shot. The league can't suspend a retired player.

Troof.

I guess that's why the refs handed you guys the game against the Steelers - gotta squeeze one last match up out of the 'Brady/Manning series'

ClevelandBronco · 01-21-2016, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Troof.

I guess that's why the refs handed you guys the game against the Steelers - gotta squeeze one last match up out of the 'Brady/Manning series'

America wins.

rabblerouser · 01-21-2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

America weeps.

Fyp

ClevelandBronco · 01-21-2016, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Fyp

Damn autocorrect.

**Anyong Bluth** · 01-21-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

What a strange bump

You should have that looked at. Last thing you want is breast cancer.

Eleazar · 01-21-2016, 08:53 AM

Uh oh, they came for pete's buddy's car again

rabblerouser · 01-21-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Damn autocorrect.

I know, right??

**Anyong Bluth** · 01-21-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I know, right??

Eye no, write??

TLO · 01-21-2016, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112

I'm wondering if lil smokey is the reincarnation of blueballs.

Idk what a blueballs is/was. I was genuinely interested in this case.

**SAUTO** · 01-21-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'm starting to warm up to L'il Smokey.

He's way better than the other "smoke" on this board (cocksmoke2002)

He's good people

arrwheader · 01-22-2016, 02:40 PM

That's 100 percent murder. I don't see any debate. I own guns. Keep one loaded ready to go in case of a break in. I wouldn't shoot anyone in the face after I had already neutralized the threat. Especially if it's a kid. Jesus. Then to go on and brutally murder the other girl. Damn, that's cold blooded shit.

The argument well don't break in and it won't happen. Yes that would have avoided the murders. It would have also have been avoided had the guy not been a Pyscopath.

rabblerouser · 01-22-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader

That's 100 percent murder. I don't see any debate. I own guns. Keep one loaded ready to go in case of a break in. I wouldn't shoot anyone in the face after I had already neutralized the threat. Especially if it's a kid. Jesus. Then to go on and brutally murder the other girl. Damn, that's cold blooded shit.

The argument well don't break in and it won't happen. Yes that would have avoided the murders. It would have also have been avoided had the guy not been a Pyscopath.

Ummm...what the **** is a Pyscopath??

You mean 'psychopath'??

rabblerouser · 01-22-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

He's good people

For sure.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-22-2016, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

For sure.

You broke the ruuuuuules by changing creature avy too soon

rabblerouser · 01-22-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You broke the ruuuuuules by changing creature avy too soon

I know. I ****ed everything up.

It's my fault that Andy Reid sucks.

11-27-2012, 04:56 PM
NIUhuskies Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Casino cash: $8395050	Minnesota man who killed teens in break-in charged with murder wow, this sounds pretty messed up... Cant tell if his guy is nuts or if these kids were on drugs By NBC News staff and wire services A 64-year-old Minnesota man was charged Monday with murder for killing two teenagers who he said broke into his Little Falls home, shooting them in the head, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported. AP file Byron David Smith was arrested after he told police he shot and killed two teenagers who he said were breaking into his home on Thanksgiving Day. "If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again," Byron David Smith of Little Falls told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday. Smith was charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Haile Kifer, 18, and her cousin, Nicholas Brady, 17, both of Little Falls. The teens were shot on Thanksgiving Day, but their deaths weren't reported until Friday. Advertise \| AdChoices Brady has also used the name Schaeffel, which is his mother’s maiden name, at times for family reasons, according to the sheriff's office. In the criminal complaint, Smith said he was in the basement of his remote home about 10 miles southwest of Little Falls when he heard a window breaking upstairs, followed by footsteps that eventually approached the basement stairwell. Fearful after several break-ins, according to the complaint, Smith said he fired when Brady came into view from the waist down. After the teen fell down the stairs, Smith said he shot him in the face as he lay on the floor. "I want him dead," the complaint quoted Smith telling an investigator. Smith said he dragged Brady's body into his basement workshop, then sat back down on his chair, and after a few minutes Kifer began coming down the stairs. He said he shot her as soon as her hips appeared, and she fell down the steps. Smith said he tried to shoot her again with his Mini 14 rifle, but that the gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him. "Smith stated that it was not a very long laugh because she was already hurting," according to the complaint. Smith said he then shot Kifer in the chest several times with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to Brady, and with her still gasping for air, fired a shot under her chin "up into the cranium." "Smith described it as 'a good clean finishing shot,'" according to the compliant, but also that he acknowledged he had fired "more shots than (he) needed to." The following day he asked a neighbor to recommend a good lawyer, according to the complaint. He later asked his neighbor to call the police. A prosecutor called Smith's reaction "appalling." "Mr. Smith intentionally killed two teenagers in his home in a matter that goes well beyond self-defense," Morrison County Attorney Brian Middendorf said after Smith appeared at Morrison County District Court on Monday morning. Bail was set at $2 million. Follow @NBCNewsUS Minnesota law allows a homeowner to use deadly force on an intruder if a reasonable person would fear they're in danger of harm. Smith told investigators he was afraid the intruders might have a weapon. Smith's actions "sound like an execution" rather than legitimate self-defense, said David Pecchia, executive director of the Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association. Pecchia said his statements to investigators suggest he had eliminated any threat to his safety by wounding the cousins. Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, told the Star Tribune of Minneapolis that the incident was the eighth burglary at Byron Smith's home in recent years. The only report the Morrison County sheriff's office has for a break-in at the home was for one on Oct. 27. It shows Byron Smith reported losing cash and gold coins worth $9,200, plus two guns worth $200 each, photo equipment worth more than $3,000 and a ring worth $300. Little Falls is about 100 miles northwest of Minneapolis. Brady's sister, Crystal Schaeffel, told the Star Tribune that Kifer had broken into her home before. Little Falls police records show Crystal Schaeffel reported a theft Aug. 28, but the department said the report was not public because that investigation was continuing and because it named juveniles. Tessa Ruth, an aunt of Brady, attended Smith's hearing. She told the Star Tribune she wished the man had fired a warning shot or alerted the police instead of shooting the teens. "It wasn't right for them to be there and, yes, he had a right to defend himself. But to execute them like that..." http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...th-murder?lite
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arrwheader Veteran Join Date: Dec 2011 Casino cash: $2996613	That's 100 percent murder. I don't see any debate. I own guns. Keep one loaded ready to go in case of a break in. I wouldn't shoot anyone in the face after I had already neutralized the threat. Especially if it's a kid. Jesus. Then to go on and brutally murder the other girl. Damn, that's cold blooded shit. The argument well don't break in and it won't happen. Yes that would have avoided the murders. It would have also have been avoided had the guy not been a Pyscopath.
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