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**Anyong Bluth** · 10-13-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

This discussion reminds me of a philosophical quandary that seems to be percolating back up around the show.

What is more terrifying to you

An AI that passes the Turing test?
or
An AI that deliberately fails the Turing test?

How is the 2nd option not always the answer?

Exhibiting deception means that the new entity has already bitten from the apple and fallen.

I guess you can take consolation in the fact that it happened so quickly that we were predestined to fail and doomed from the start.

It is an interesting premise to present self awareness in an AI as a glitch, and the commentary as it translates to humanity and our relationship to nature, our environment, and one another.

**Baby Lee** · 10-13-2016, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

How is the 2nd option not always the answer?

Exhibiting deception means that the new entity has already bitten from the apple and fallen.

I guess you can take consolation in the fact that it happened so quickly that we were predestined to fail and doomed from the start.

It is an interesting premise to present self awareness in an AI as a glitch, and the commentary as it translates to humanity and our relationship to nature, our environment, and one another.

OK, perhaps 'quandary' is an ill-fitted descriptor. The 2nd option is a more terrifying possibility, but it's not one generally countenanced when assessing the utility of benchmarks such as the Turing test.

That is, 'how disorienting to ponder that the thing we are most fearful of and vigilant against, might not even be the greatest threat we face. . . '

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-13-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

What is the significance of the bartender appearing to have black hair in the first episode but then having grey hair in the second episode? It looked like the same guy, just older.

i mentioned your thought to someone else

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If I recall correctly, it was the bartender that was reprogrammed to serve as Dolores's father near the end of the first episode. So the bartender in episode 2 was supposed to be a replacement."

mr. tegu · 10-13-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

i mentioned your thought to someone else

I don't think the first bartender is her new father. He looked skinnier and with a smaller build than the bartender. It really looked like the exact same bartender in the episodes, just older. Am I wrong in that?

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-13-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I don't think the first bartender is her new father. He looked skinnier and with a smaller build than the bartender. It really looked like the exact same bartender in the episodes, just older. Am I wrong in that?

I dunno, I didn't pay that close of attention to him.

KChiefs1 · 10-13-2016, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I don't think the first bartender is her new father. He looked skinnier and with a smaller build than the bartender. It really looked like the exact same bartender in the episodes, just older. Am I wrong in that?

I'll rewatch it this weekend.

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**Baby Lee** · 10-13-2016, 03:16 AM

I half love, half HATE, the fact that Abrams is apparently delving back into the narrative possibilities of the conflation of reality, fiction and fictionalized reality.

On one hand, in their beginning stages the storylines spark the imagination and turn the viewing process into an individualized creative process of its own as you dream up 'fanfic' of what it all means.

On the other hand we have LOST, the elephant in the room. The show where all that narrative world-building turned out to be a Potemkin village erected to mask the fact that they had no idea what they were doing in the end.

That said, here's preview footage.

**Lzen** · 10-14-2016, 10:13 AM

I watched the first episode during the free preview of HBO this past weekend. Looked like a good show. I don't want to subscribe to HBO, though I am tempted. Any other way to watch?

Nirvana58 · 10-14-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I watched the first episode during the free preview of HBO this past weekend. Looked like a good show. I don't want to subscribe to HBO, though I am tempted. Any other way to watch?

1. Buy Amazon Fire Stick
2. Install Kodi on it
3. Watch any TV show or Movie for free
4. Cancel all Cable related bills
5. Profit

**SAGA45** · 10-15-2016, 11:05 AM

ReAnimator

Would You Rather

watch those two and appreciate the connection

Hammock Parties · 10-15-2016, 11:06 AM

Watched the first episode last night and was pretty spellbound.

Ed Harris' character is going somewhere interesting.

**Baby Lee** · 10-17-2016, 04:13 AM

In episode 3, can someone pay attention to Teddy/Marsden's dialog during the first gunfight for McPoyle?

Is it just me, or does his voice and accent sound overdubbed by Kevin Costner? Does Marsden always sound like Costner and I just don't notice?

L.A. Chieffan · 10-17-2016, 09:02 AM

Keep waiting for McPoyles brother and sister to show up in bath robes. Very distracting

BleedingRed · 10-17-2016, 09:54 AM

amazing show so far

KChiefs1 · 10-17-2016, 08:10 PM

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