brake line fitting

[SAUTO]

If that's what you actually do I would be embarrassed if I was you.

No problems are getting fixed. None. every manufacturer is putting out pieces of shit. Ford. Lol. I was talking about a ford truck the whole time you stupid ****.

Get your ****ing hands dirty and you will see why they are pieces of shit
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[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

If that's what you actually do I would be embarrassed if I was you.

No problems are getting fixed. None. every manufacturer is putting out pieces of shit. Ford. Lol. I was talking about a ford truck the whole time you stupid ****.

Get your ****ing hands dirty and you will see why they are pieces of shit
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Why would you be embarrassed? I've been where you've been, and in 10 years of work I've probably turned out 3-4 times more cars than you have since I've worked my time in the metro. If you lived here, I'd probably bring in 2-3 times as much as you do, too. And I work maybe 1/3rd the hours. I love my job, it just requires me to have Degrees, Certs, go through classes, and have an excellent understand of everything.

Ironically you bring up ford, as I was envisioning pre-2003 ford F series trucks when you were trying to describe the issue.

You have yet to answer about 17 of my questions thus far, most notably which of the ASE tests you took to get through your master cert, and in what area are you master certified?

I don't believe you are an ASE Mastertech, and your lack of information concerning my questions suggests you lied heavily about that.

Its okay to tell me you got your ASE certification in Air Conditioning or Brakes and Suspension (Easy certs) just so you can hang a sign in front of your shop. When I was 18 and my best friend and I had our first shop pre-college, we did the exact same thing.

[SAUTO]

Over educated know nothing.
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[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Over educated know nothing.
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Somebody sounds mad.

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Somebody sounds mad.

Yeah...you. You have been at this for two hours bro. Your a fuggin mechanic, and you work for the man. Piling on Jason about your Pitt State schooling (I wouldn't be tooting my horn too loudly about that yeeesh!) and your tardo certification tests. At least he has the balls to strike out on his own AND stick with it. I figure his business probably pulls in $300k a year based on what he said. Right nice little operation for a small town I would say.

Quit being an obnoxious n00b around here and . Olathe... explains it all.

[SAUTO]

You win fax
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[SAUTO]

You were envisioning the ford now that I tell you ford.

Ten year experience two failed owned shops. Successful shops stay open.


I'm done with you.
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[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

You were envisioning the ford now that I tell you ford.

Ten year experience two failed owned shops. Successful shops stay open.


I'm done with you.
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I envisioned Ford because that's 50% of what I work on lol. I just don't deal with 98-02/03ish ford trucks often. I generally don't work on trucks at all.

We closed the first shop because my partner took a job with Ford in bum****ed egypt Kansas Near Mound City/Blue Mound in that area. I went to school, he shortly followed me to school, we opened up another shop out of school as we finished our certs and wanted to make money. We didn't fail at all, I got a job offer and he applied for a job when we decided to close down since I was leaving.

You call that a failure, I call that keeping my ass employed and paying bills. Owning your own shop is hard and challenging, and to be honest, with my schooling and certs, I'll make more in a year than any single facility shop manager or shop owner will, and do a fraction of the work.

You you still haven't answered my ASE questions buddy, is that truly why you are done? Can't google all the information I asked so you can give me the right answer?

[FlaChief58]

So, you're saying that when there is no pressure applied to the pedal there is no fluid in the lines?

[SAUTO]

absoutely NO VEHICLE OUT THERE HAS BRAKE LINES THE SAME LENGTH. the fluid does NOT circulate through a system, it goes back and forth a little in the lines but it stays there. the vacuum booster puts NO vacuum actually into the braking system ????HUH???

it helps you apply pressure to the master cylinder by using a diaphram.

and again on a FORD the drivers side line, which the passenger side line tee's into is at least eight feet SHORTER than the passenger and both work off the same port on the master cylinder.

but he worked on a 2004 acura...


i'm not sure what you can or cant google about ASE certs, because i didnt need to try, BUT i will say that i dont feel like laying my whole life line out for you to try and pick apart, or copy.

i think the people on this site that actually give a shit know what i'm about


i know you have set out,And FAILED, twice but dont hold it against me because i didnt.


and my ticket totals dont reflect 100 dollar + an hour laber rates, in my area we only get around 60.

i wont respond any more to the troll

[SAUTO]

one more thing... not for the troll but for anyone with a brain reading this, if a car will work air bubbles out itself WHY WOULD YOU EVER NEED TO BLEED THE SYSTEM? pumping it with the car running should self bleed it, right?


no.

[loochy]

So maybe it got lost in the bitchy back and forth, but did MO ever manage to remove the line without destroying it?

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by loochy

So maybe it got lost in the bitchy back and forth, but did MO ever manage to remove the line without destroying it?

Yea, I don’t even give a shit to go wading through all the posturing.
So, MO, um did you?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

absoutely NO VEHICLE OUT THERE HAS BRAKE LINES THE SAME LENGTH. the fluid does NOT circulate through a system, it goes back and forth a little in the lines but it stays there. the vacuum booster puts NO vacuum actually into the braking system ????HUH???

it helps you apply pressure to the master cylinder by using a diaphram.

and again on a FORD the drivers side line, which the passenger side line tee's into is at least eight feet SHORTER than the passenger and both work off the same port on the master cylinder.

but he worked on a 2004 acura...


i'm not sure what you can or cant google about ASE certs, because i didnt need to try, BUT i will say that i dont feel like laying my whole life line out for you to try and pick apart, or copy.

i think the people on this site that actually give a shit know what i'm about


i know you have set out,And FAILED, twice but dont hold it against me because i didnt.


and my ticket totals dont reflect 100 dollar + an hour laber rates, in my area we only get around 60.

i wont respond any more to the troll

It is clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about past the old concept of Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty.

I didn't "fail" at all. We remained profitable up until our last days, twice. Running a profit is not failing, and if you had the opportunities we had, you'd probably want to close down your shop or sell it too.

I don't need to "copy" your life story, I've fairly well got the gist of your experience and career already.

You claim to be an ASE certified Master Tech, but cannot tell me what pathway you took and what tests you took and how you scored on them.

You claim to be an ASE certified Master Tech, but lack the intelligence to actually be a legitimate ASE certified Master Tech.

You are nothing more than a shadetree mechanic without legitimate certifications that are up to date and in good standing. You work at (probably don't even run) a mom and pop shop in the middle of ****ing nowhere, and never went to school for your career.

Yet you are on here arguing with me about theories, hypothesis, and the technical intricacies of modern technology in automobiles, something I went to school for and became certified in, and you didn't.

Truth is, you didn't ever comprehend 1/4th of what I just said, yet you are arguing.

GO HOME SHADETREE, YOU ARE DRUNK

You literally understood NOTHING about the working theory behind equal length brake lines in a catastrophic failure, yet you're trying to give me shit for it.

This is absurd.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

one more thing... not for the troll but for anyone with a brain reading this, if a car will work air bubbles out itself WHY WOULD YOU EVER NEED TO BLEED THE SYSTEM? pumping it with the car running should self bleed it, right?


no.

You are so dumb.

Your analogy for the brake booster basically implies that I'm taking my household vacuum and just sticking that puppy in the master cylinder and turning her on. Yeah, that'll work.

Let me ask you a question. If fluid isn't meant to move through the brake system, why do we, as mechanics who know our shit, always check the color of the fluid in the master cylinder? Why do we add fluid to the master cylinder at all? If the fluid cannot move to where it is needed, how can fluid move from the master cylinder to my left rear caliper?

If air gets trapped in a system where fluid doesn't move, your argument that we have bleeders on the calipers so that we can bleed air of the system is invalid, since the fluid wouldn't be able to move there.

After all, how can a system that is 100% always full of fluid, according to you, manage to pressurize itself enough to move its mass out of a bleeder so that whatever compressible air that is in the lines which are apparently always 100% full of fluid, can exit?

Oh, right, because the vacuum assisted brakes allow us to multiply pedal pressure to force fluid through the lines through the path of least resistance exiting through the bleeder at the caliper with the air bubble hopefully exiting as well, because the fluid in the braking system is...........you guessed it, DESIGNED TO MOVE SO THAT YOU CAN.............................Bleed the brakes.

Jesus Christ you are dumb.

Originally Posted by loochy

So maybe it got lost in the bitchy back and forth, but did MO ever manage to remove the line without destroying it?

Nobody knows lol

[DeezNutz]

Sauto is a stand-up dude, who has earned the respect and trust of many of the posters on this board.