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Old 04-10-2014, 12:54 PM  
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Bill Walsh: How I evaluate each position

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Nice read. Walsh is considered the father of the version of west coast offense that Andy Reid employs.

His ideal size WR: 6'3'', 210 lbs
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:43 PM   #2
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FYI....the ideal size for QB is the same thing. 6'3" 210 lbs.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:45 PM   #3
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The single trait that separates great quarterbacks from good quarterbacks is the ability to make the great, spontaneous decision, especially at a crucial time. The clock is running down and your team is five points behind. The play that was called has broken down and 22 players are moving in almost unpredictable directions all over the field.

This is where the great quarterback uses his experience, vision, mobility and what we will call spontaneous genius. He makes something good happen. This, of course, is what we saw in Joe Montana when he pulled out those dramatic victories for Notre Dame.
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Old 04-10-2014, 01:51 PM   #4
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:04 PM   #5
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Bill Walsh is a football God.
But I wouldn't put 100% relevance on his player evals, due to the fact that the game has changed SOOOO tremendously.
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:19 PM   #6
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Bill Walsh is a football God.
But I wouldn't put 100% relevance on his player evals, due to the fact that the game has changed SOOOO tremendously.
Everything that i read looks relevant to today's game though.

When i read his description of the perfect WR, It sounds like he's describing AJ Green or even Fitz.
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:28 PM   #7
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Everything that i read looks relevant to today's game though.

When i read his description of the perfect WR, It sounds like he's describing AJ Green or even Fitz.
That may be true for most positions, but I can think of a few that have changed dramatically since his time.
While his model QB is still probably the ideal, the position has changed and smaller and mobile may be just as valuable.

Defensive players, aside, maybe from the back end, are almost all built quite a bit different than even 10 years ago.
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Interesting first couple of sentences on Guards.
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I thought his evaluation on WR was interesting. Most people get caught up with speed, and instead he finds flexibility and strength as the 2 most important factors.
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Interesting first couple of sentences on Guards.
I'm still not clear what type of offensive line the chiefs are...Man or Zone. I realize no team runs one system exclusively, but most teams lean heavily in 1 type or another.
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I thought his evaluation on WR was interesting. Most people get caught up with speed, and instead he finds flexibility and strength as the 2 most important factors.
It's the WCO. He wants guys that can get open right away and use their bodies to shield defenders off the ball.
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Old 04-10-2014, 04:12 PM   #13
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Nice read. Walsh is considered the father of the version of west coast offense that Andy Reid employs.

His ideal size WR: 6'3'', 210 lbs
No, he is not.

LaVell Edwards is considered the father of the version of the West Coast offense that Andy Reid employs.

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Some of the winningest coaches at the NFL and college level have used the WCO, and in fact it was actually developed separately by at least three different head coaches, Don Coryell, Bill Walsh, and Lavell Edwards.

Lavell Edwards also developed a version of the West Coast Offense during his time at BYU. He was hired as head coach in 1972 and installed his system that year. Previously BYU had tried to run first and then pass, but they had a dismal record. Edwards decided to do the opposite and went pass first and then run. His playbook utilized the simplicity of the West Coast Offense. Receiver positions would be named (generally x,y,z). Routes would also be named. Edwards could then call in a play and read off a combination of route and receiver. This allowed him to keep his playbook very short. He had less than 15 basic pass plays, and less than 5 basic run plays. This allowed the offenses to learn the playbook quickly and then perfect it.

Edwards would go 257-101-3 during his career at BYU. He would go 7-12 in Bowl Games, and win one National Title. His quarterbacks threw for well over 100,000 yards and 635 touchdowns. His coaching tree includes two Super Bowl winning coaches, and several college head coaches.
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FYI....the ideal size for QB is the same thing. 6'3" 210 lbs.
He also said that the ideal WC QB should be able to play point guard efficiently as well. (Montana)
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